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Questions of the Children towards Eleazar Part 10 – 23rd of June 2024

The Elders and the Eldresses are our Ancestors. And who are not our Ancestors? Who is the Mother of Eve? How did God or the Absolute make the First Elder? Who gives birth to the Elders? Do they have a Mother?

-Let us start with a Formula.

-Yes.

-…so that the Master is present?

-Yes.

-Hello, friends, today is the tenth part of our series Questions of the Children towards Eleazar. We continue with Shining’s questions, who is already seven years old. But before that, let us ask Eleazar: Who can distinguish the inner voices within themselves? You have shared that only after a New Birth, the person is able to distinguish who is speaking to them on the inside. Would you share something?

-Voices are everywhere, in the form of vibrations, of whispers – in people, in animals, in objects. Even in the rock there are voices, and the rock can tell a story. For a person to reach the Pure Voice, this means to lead one Deeply Truthful, right life… and otherwise, this is a big topic. And only then will they be able to hear the Voice within the Voice – i.e. the One Who has created the Voice will enter – and then He speaks what is Truthful, right. And the others may imagine that they are right, that they hear, right. But the one who truly hears becomes a Sage, an Initiate, a Master, and at the same time exceptionally modest and humble. One of the methods for direct communication with God and the Master – this is Absolute Humility. Humility is the method of hearing, the method of seeing. The method of Direct Communion is an exceptional quality that is difficult to say one person in millions possesses. It is simply an exceptional quality. Its height is such. And when God wants to commune with a person and to give them His Voice, His Eye – just as the Master gives His Voice and His Eye – first, He makes them humble, deeply humble, in order to make them His Door. But this is a big topic.

-Yes, and you shared that even – even the rock hears a voice, even the plant hears a voice, even animals hear voices.

-Yes, angels enter and can tell in the plants, in the flower – what the herb is and how it is to be used. In the Pure Communion, the Sacred Communion – not like scientists, right. The scientist sees physics, chemistry, atoms. The Pure one sees the Unknown, the Immeasurable, the Love in the flower. And I had an occurrence: a rock tells you a story directly, right.

-Yes, and is it this Inner Voice that makes, let us say, the herb reveal itself to someone who has love, a special love for flowers?

-He makes the Connection with both the herb and the person. He enters into the Soul of the herb, into the Soul of the person – and He Himself instils Soul – and the person just understands what it is about, and the others just look. And then the herb just speaks to the person.

-Yes, yes, yes. It tells them what it needs to, and others imagine.

-Yes. And what would you advise all those who hear various voices within themselves? What attitude should they have towards all these whispers, visions, so as not to be misled and not to mislead others?

-Only in the Way of Love towards Truth – Truth will clarify and eventually give discernment.

-But until then the person should not rush, to go out and to tell…

-Then, whatever they tell, they lose; whatever they hear. So, they think these are symbols, that they are sent by God. For example, let us say, they meet a black cat. God, He does not depend on this black cat. How can God in you depend on symbols? He is Above… And when This Voice leads you towards Itself, you will give up on all symbols, on all visions. As long as you still see – it means you do not see. The Direct Communion is the Nothingness. It excludes everything, and then the Nothingness speaks in you, and then the Voice of the Master is pure. It speaks clearly to you, it speaks comprehensibly.

-Yes, yes. Thank you, thank you. And so, Shining’s first question: The Elders and the Eldresses are our Ancestors, but who are not our Ancestors?

-First, the Ancestors, these are the Elders and the Deities. They are Ancient. They are the Ancient Truth in us. They are the Great and Deep Unity in ourselves, and Adam and Eve are another school – the division – the teaching lost. The Ancestors are the Ancient Way, the Primordial Way, and Adam and Eve were exiled in order to return. The Elders are Sacraments before the Way existed. The Elders are our Foundation. They are our Ancient Root. They are the True Ancestors.

-Yes. The second question: Who is the mother of Eve?

-So, the Mother is concealed. When Eve chooses the world, this Mother is strict. When she chooses God and God’s Will, this Mother is teaching. She leads Eve towards being a Deva, and Eve gradually becomes a Pure Primordial Soul, a Pure consciousness. It is great when Eve attracts  the True Mother of Love. Then she will one day return into the Power of Love and in the Proto-Mother. Then Love becomes aware and I can say – this Love itself, the aware Love – this is the Supreme Service. Just as the Pure Wellspring serves. This Love is the Perfection of Service. Only this Divine Love works for the universal salvation because those who have lost their love must be saved – because they have lost their Soul. The Living Soul is Love, and the dead soul is knowledge. The problem of believers and non-believers is that they know, and therefore they fight with the devil or with themselves, but Love comes to know. Why? Because the Loving one merges with God and they are Blissful – they have no one to fight. Love is… Love has no enemies, no opponents. Love is the Last Word in the Universe and beyond it. The Mother of Eve is the Primordial Love. And if you become Love, and if you are Love, you are in God and in Love, and not in religion and knowledge. What does it matter to Love what religion you have if you have no Love? Love is God, Love is the Mother of Life.

-The third question from Shining: How did God or the Absolute create the First Elder?

-The Absolute created the First Elder in an Ancient Way – not through the Word but through an Uttered Speechlessness. Here I will only slightly divert and continue. So, the Master is an Uttered Speechlessness, and therefore however you want to express Him, you cannot. He is not like the others, right, He overtakes… So the Absolute created the First Elder in an Ancient Way – not through the Word but through an Uttered Speechlessness and therefore the First Elder says: Millions of years ago, there, in the distant past, was I. And He says: I taught the Sun to shine. The Master is Ancient. In His lectures He says: I am before Eternity and will be after it. And more: When you pass through 100 million suns, through 100 million solar systems and come to Me, I will greet you. See where the Master is. The Master says: You say I am Deunov (transl.note – the meaning of ‘’Deunov’’ is ‘’of the bottom’’), but I am bottomless. And you are an Abyss –  it means “bottomless”–but you must discover it (transl.note – the word ‘’Abyss’’ in Bulgarian is composed from the words ‘’without’’ and ‘’bottom’’). In general, the Master is even before the future. He is Ancient, there are no such things there. All these things… what messages, what, right… Anciency is above everything.

-You shared that…

-He is the Source.

-Yes. You shared that He came so that the entire Bulgarian people could choose Him, but only His disciples have chosen Him.

-Yes, people have chosen the world and they will always have problems, and the disciples gradually erase… erase the karma, erase all burden, and they walk in the Right Way, and after a while, everything will be given to them, because… the Master has Chosen, and He does not make a mistake.

-Yes, the fourth question from Shining: Who gives birth to the Elders? Do they have a Mother?

-The Elders are not born, but Unborn. They are Ancient Depths, came out of the Mystery of the Absolute. They only appear to be born, in order to become closer to us. The Elders are Truth in action, like the Master – God’s Will in action. And the Elders are God’s Will in action. They have Love within Themselves, and that is Their Mother, Their Unity. They have Wisdom – and that is Their Father. And Truth is Their Depth, Their Mystery. They are the Image and Likeness of the Boundlessness and the Mystery. And this is why They do not speak about the Truth, They are the Truth. And this is why they create the Truth – the Unbornness. The Elders are movements of the Gracious Peace – the Sea of Proto-Light. Because They are Unborn, They feed on the Proto- State – the Great Uncreated Completeness, the Manna. The Manna – this is the Unborn Nourishment. No Wise Being wants to understand the Absolute, but only to be Touched by It. Al Motihara, the 25th Independent Elder of the First Circle, says: “What is Majestic is only the Incomprehensible.” That is it.

-Yes, thank you. You had something about Humility that you had prepared for us, or…?

-No, no.

-Yes… so, next time, you agreed to tell us something about the place of talents and gifts in the way of children; their development and realisation. And if our gifts and talents are what we love to do, can we develop and grow spiritually without this taking us away from the Way to God?

-Yes, we will answer, yes… But again: a gift if it is not dedicated to the Master, will lose itself. They are beings, the gifts – who work. They want to push the person, but if they do not understand… service, the conscious service to God, after a while, they will lose their gifts and their strength, and everything will be lost.

-And if the gift coincides with what a person loves to do? Or is that not enough?

-Well, it will be some path, but there is no guarantee where it will lead because the Foundation and Root of absolutely everything is the Master. Everything you do without the Master, and if it is not in His Name… Because the Master is a Fearsome Word, the Fearsome Sublimity. This is… So, the Supreme Master – the Absolute – created the Master and this is why God seeks the Master.

-God seeks the Master too?

-Yes, He seeks Him because without Him He cannot… become accessible. And accessible in such a way, that… so clear. And if some do not understand the Master, it is because of Him being too Clear. I have come to this conclusion. Because… and it is Depth.

-So we can say that the Master must become the Centre of life around which everything whirls.

-Absolutely everything is in Him. Events, and occurences, and small details. In general, everything is Him.

-Yes. Next month, Adelina will be our guest again for the second time with her questions. And we will read two of them, the rest we will save: Where did the darkness come from? And also: What are the animals of the demons – neither from the earth, nor from the soil, nor from the sky, but from their world?

-Yes, yes.

-Will we answer?

-Yes, yes.

-An answer from Eleazar to this and other questions in our next conversation. And let us make an announcement for the new, upcoming public meeting of Eleazar with Guru Yogi Tan. The meeting will be held in Varna on the 6th of the 9th month.

-The sixth, sixth of September… Yes, at 5:00 PM, right?

-5:00 PM, in hall 1 of FCC Varna. The meeting is held by ‘’8 Magazine’’,  Eleazar Harash Foundation, with the support of  “The Master and The Disciple” bookstore Sofia. And the topic of the meeting is: Awakening. And let us ask: can we say that Awakening, Enlightenment, Initiation – this is the Way of the disciple to their Master?

-Awakening is just the beginning, and the Real Awakening happens in the Initiation. It happens in Samadhi. In Samadhi, I can say, a  Total Merging of the Master and the disciple happens. And there is no longer a Master and a disciple, there is no two – they become One. And the Master does everything. The disciple realises this – some think that they act, but only the Master acts.

-Yes, and then the disciple becomes a Son?

-Well, they become a Son, one might even say they don’t become a disciple, they become a Mystery. The True disciples become Mystics.

-Mystics.

-Deep, different waters.

-Okay, and we want to greet all friends with an excerpt from our upcoming book: “The Master about Himself”. It will include the Diamond Book that you are preparing.

-Yes, yes.

-Here is a fragment: “May your reliance be Fire. The Way towards Me is like a river towards a sea. The Way towards Me is like Fire towards Fire. The Way towards Me is diligence and reliance. Whoever is diligent towards Me, will see Me. Whoever relies on Me, shall know Me. I am always faithful for the one who is reliant. True and Immutable is My Name, but I wish that you are diligent and that your reliance is Fire” – the First Elder, The Master.

-Yes…

Translated by Ruah Ezekiel