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Of Love between people, Interview from 25.11.2016 pt. 2

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Of Love between people, part 2

Interview with Eleazar Harash
held on 25.11.2016 by Portal12

(continued from part 1) – here

In the process of raising the children… Since each family is a closed community, what should the keys be, towards freedom and the searching for the Divine? Should we keep this family community closed, or should we rather give complete freedom to the children?

It is very difficult for people to give total freedom, but this is the best thing to do, in this sense: Total freedom means total trust – you are already giving something from God. With total trust there will be total friendship in time, it will be created by trust. But it is good to… You give your trust, but as Mohammad says: Tie your camel and then pray. In the sense: “God, You guide my child on the right path.” “You lead my child.”, “You teach my child.”, “You educate my child”. There is even such a formula, which the Master recently gave to me: “God, fortify Yourself in my child.” – because if He fortifies Himself, then everything else will already be in its place, and the rest is trust. So, both prayers and trust, and right conversations. Not some manoeuvring because it is a child. It is an old Soul. You do not know – it might be much more experienced…  In many regards it is more experienced than your Soul in other regards. This is why there is big reverence between us, and this is why I secretly love both Saints and Sages, but I know who is on what level, because there are… I am researching about 800 Masters and Sages, and so I respect the children – saints (the saints are children) but there are certain Sages, who… Even Sages cannot be my measure, because the Master is something Supreme, and we are looking for the True measure, so that we know exactly where we are going.

And maybe this summoning to instil God into the children, is namely the key to eliminating fear, because a big number of parents live in constant fear and anxiety for their children. Even, let us say, that they might get hit by a car on the street, how they perform in school, or how they turn out to be in time their life.

To worry is a quality of the mind. This is the lower person, the fallen person, they worry even with an arranged life. There worrying is… it is a law. They cannot live without worrying – the mental person, the rudimentary, inferiour person. Worries are their zest, they do not even have a choice. But when the person trusts the child and loves it, prays for it, thinks correctly according to God’s laws… not according to the laws of the world and some religion – the laws of God – they are not laws of religion, we will explain the difference sometime. So, when you love the child, you trust it completely. This is not faith, I want to say the difference. You can have faith in your child and still not trust it – because of these fears. Fears are an old sickness of the mind. Anxieties – a person who is anxious, they do not even have true faith, let us not speak about trust. So, worries must die. To the truly spiritual person worrying is foreign. They live in the Current of God – there, even if you want to, you cannot worry – not that it is forbidden, but it is not present.

But let me say some more important things about the child.

What is most important is that children be taught a special Love towards Truth. That is how children were taught in Persia according to the laws of Zarathustra. Truth means Asha in Persian. And from an early age it was much emphasised how the child should talk, how to be silent, how to pray, how to value God. Why? – Because in time Truth will lead the child straight into the arms of God. The devil may reach, the demons may try…

He has no right?

He has none. No, he cannot, because there it is God’s aura. Where God is, there is no devil. Where Truth is… Yes.

Years ago, the path towards laying down the spiritual foundations of the upbringing was namely asceticism, today, however, we see around us the rushed daily life, a lot of technology – the children are constantly under the influence of being mentally busy. Is it possible for them to be saved from this blindness and to provide them a path towards the spiritual, if you could give us some particular examples of efforts leading to this?

First of all, let me tell you about asceticism and monasticism – in the past and now – there have been huge delusions. This is said by Priest Bogomil. He says: The monasteries are full of fox-people – monks, hidden foxes, who have escaped from the world because it is pleasant in the monastery, like an escape. There are separate individual monks who separate themselves not to run away from the world and from problems and difficulties, but to devote their life to God. It is very difficult to find 3 people out of 100 – I can prove this using the laws of numbers, but we will not go down that path. I know it is so – because there the requirements, the bar that God Himself has spoken… they cannot go near it, but let us say that there are a few people… What does Buddha say about who is a monk? He says: If you are completely honest with yourself and you have the special Love for Truth, then you are in the monastery, then the world is a monastery. If you are not honest, even in the monastery, you are not in the monastery. – Simple, clear… Buddha is… we will speak of him as well, if we decide to – a very Deep Wisdom.

So let me, after all, bring back the parallel concerning today’s extremely technocratic reality – i.e. the approach of forbidding the children’s access to technologies,  because a big part of children today are dependent on computers, smartphones, etc. – so we should understand that is not the way… In the conditions of this engagement of the mind and all these technologies, can we find balance and a path towards the Truth and the spiritual? In the primary beginning stages of the children’s education.

It is not a matter of balance exactly… Again, we get to the point of trust. When your child is occupied with computers, phones – where do I see the concealed beauty?  First, there children become very perceptive – very perceptive, because there are many points of view – you cannot have only one viewpoint, like some say “Only my teaching is right”- you are already an untruthful person, it is done. I am researching over 80 Teachings and many other Sages, and I see that all nations and the aphorisms of all nations… Everyone is right! But when they purify themselves and enter this Right way of Life in Unity with God. Everyone else, even if they are speaking correctly, if they do not have this Unity… But let me go back to your question. A prayer – let us say your child is involved with computers: “God, guide my child, I have full trust in You.” In time, it will… The child has its own path there, this  perceptivity will give it in time such a point of view that it will grow beyond both the Bible and the Quran and will enter into Unity with God, because it will understand the unwritten laws – and they are within the Pure Heart. Of the Pure Heart we may speak especially, because it is a Secret science of Egypt and Atlantis. And this is why Bayazid says: 100 monasteries, 100 churches, 100 Bibles, 100 Qurans are not worth as much as one Pure Heart. – They are worth nothing. The Pure Heart is such a Secret science, that you can even amaze God Himself – I am not speaking of the angels. We can devote an interview sometime, so that you see what science the matter is about. This is something very rare in the world, because it is very difficult, laboursome. It is one thing to imagine that you have a Pure Heart and to think about it, it is a completely different thing to have it… A Deep, says the Master, Secret Science of the Depths. The saints do not possess it – I can prove it to you, but I will not prove it, I do not like the proving of things. They have embarked on this path, they have it partially, because they do not have the Deep Wisdom, but they have at least started on this path – my respects – it is important. But…

So, something more about the children: They are called the flowers of the Earth.

Today between the parents and children there is more mentality, to some extent soulfulness. And what is right is for Wisdom to flow between them. When the parent does not have Wisdom, but they have common knowledge and information, then what are we speaking of? If they at least pray…

I will say something about deeds. We will start from the Master again, as He is the Highest measure for everything:

In the physical world, the person’s capital share is their Pure deeds. – Not thoughts, not feelings, their Pure deeds.

The good deed has a sign – says the Master – It brings Peace and Serenity to the Soul. – You receive Deep Peace, a quiet Peace and serenity. There is no worrying, so to say. There is a saying – very beautiful one – I have given it to some people who worry a lot – as an exercise. You say slowly: “Great serenity reigns Within my Soul.’’ – and you imagine a sea without any waves. Your heart is a sea, or a lake, without any waves.

The saying is: ‘’When the sea is calm, the ants come out to drink water.’’ – What beauty! A mastery – and then, what worrying, right? So now, of the deeds:

When Love visits the person, it will teach them how to act towards all people. This Love: spiritual Love, Sacred Love, Divine Love; and three Secret degrees, very Supreme, of which we should not yet talk about… let the person first reach this spiritual Love. And the Master says: Many instances in the life of the person show that people had relations between them from the far past. – As I said to you before – trust, past lives. You live with one person for 20, 50 years and you still do not trust them completely. You meet another person for the first time – immediately trust for life. How so? This is… You cannot develop or earn trust in one life – you may want to earn it. But what does the Master say in another place: If you lose the trust of a person, (or of the Bulgarians), even if you become a saint afterwards, they will never believe you. – A saint is not enough, this is another topic. But they will not believe you because it is already lost. So what if you are a saint? You have shown that you are a cracked jug.

So in this same logic, because you also used the metaphor of a cracked jug in the previous conversation…  In the relationships between people within a family, when there is a ‘’cracking of the jug’’, is there something that can glue it back together? I.e. the awareness of wrong deeds, in general, is there any forgiveness in the frame of this same lifetime in the same family?

There is forgiveness, but it does not help. If a person does not get themselves together and does not devote their life to God and to Truth in particular – to God and to Truth, in an exceptional, extraordinary way, then even if you forgive them all life long, the cracked jug is cracked. It is like the anxious person – this anxiety you cannot buy it off with money, even if you are a billionaire you cannot cure it. You must devote your life to God and when He will fix the jug – whether at the end of this life, or in the other life – that is not your business. But at least you have done the gesture of devoting your life to God – not to some church, some religion, some lighting of candles – we are speaking specifically of God and the Truth – this is a measure.

The Master says, “The biggest mistake you make is repeating your sins, at least become aware and do not repeat them.” – I have read this in one of the books a long time ago.

Yes, repeating sins reaffirms them. This is the person who does not learn, does not draw experience . This is why a disciple is the one who learns. Now, there are disciples who are slow to learn, others medium… Others have worked in the past and when they make just one mistake, they will not repeat it anymore until the end of their life, but they may make another one. And in time, the higher beings themselves (take note, not the devils) send to the person… They make it so that a mistake happens between the person and another one, especially between close people. This happens so that the disciple does not think they are flawless, in order to keep their humility and to increase it, and so that they keep working on themselves. Not think “I am an authority, I know”, because Humility is another Secret science, like the Pure Heart. Sometime we might unite it with the Secret of Humility (in an interview). Because you can devote your life to Humility and not attain it. In time I will explain to you how you are to walk on this path, because it is such a Great Teaching… The Master says: Humility – the first quality of the White Brotherhood. – You start from there – Humility and a Pure Heart. If you do not have this…

I would love for us to do another topic on Humility and Maeterlinck who is one of my favourite authors. But in these instances when spiritual beings provoke the realisation of such a sin, for example within one family, then whose shoulders does the karma rest upon?

Each person carries their own karma. Especially ripe karma, there is no salvation there anymore, because God withdraws… The ordinary, worldly person – whether they will have a family, or not; whether they will make mistakes, or not – they will be in the system of… Fallen spirits will attack them because they have not made the right choice; they have not chosen the righteousness of things, the dignity of things, the deep nobility… Dignity is deeper than nobility, this is another topic. And this is for the worldly person – it does not matter that much whether they sin, or only rarely sin. They are in the system – a fallen system, and… But they have to ripen there, in some sufferings, so that they can begin…

So: The measure for things is found only within the Divine morality. – not in the human morality.

It is an art to know how to help. And the Master says: When you do good, have you asked God? – You do not know the consequences, you may do a good deed and have very bad consequences, or you can do something evil, or say something bad, offend the person, and have such nice consequences! I have a specific example, I will give it to you right away. Some time ago, when I was secretly holding lectures in different apartments (because these lectures were forbidden), in one apartment there was a yogi and he was giving a massage to one pleasant girl. And one sister who was fat – let us call her overweight so as to not offend her – said: “Why don’t you massage me?” and he said: “You’re fat”. He insulted her, she got offended and she started jogging, for years, on this stadium. I know her, her name is Slavka -she ran like an athlete for years and years – healthy, pleasant – and sometimes we saw each other there – I too used to jog a little, rarely. And she was exercising in such a way! He helped her, and see – the bad word gave good consequences. Other times you buy a bouquet of flowers to deceive a woman, hypocritically, and in time you will bear the consequences, both you and her, and… So, a supposedly nice deed… I want to say: the Secret of the Deep deeds is found in the concealed intention. There it is decided who is Pure. The Masters of the Deep intention are the Toltecs and Sages – from a Sage upwards.

Yes, but the key here is also in how we greet, in this example, the bad word, because this woman could have been offended and done nothing.

Yes, yes.

So the interpretation is in our hands again.

Yes, but she is spiritual. And I believe she asked me and I told her something, and she started this beautiful exercising for years, that even I…

So, there is this good which brings bad consequences. There is evil which brings good consequences. A bad deed which brings good consequences is from the White Brotherhood.  A good deed which brings bad consequences is from the Black Brotherhood. The best is – says the Master – a good deed with good consequences. – It is difficult, (but) it is possible.

Spiritual relations lift people up, while the physical, material relations bring them down. – the Master.

Al Rabiya, in her cell – have I told you about this instance? A Sufi Mystic, a Persian one. There are Persian Sufis – a fearsome Wisdom. See what beauty: this is a nun, Sufi. Sufi means big Purification, beings of a High degree, devoted to God, two and three degrees above saints. But anyway, what does she say? Al Rabiya, she lived around the 8th, 9th century. Locked in her cell, she is praying to God, she is reigning in her Bliss. A monk, a Sufi Sage, knocks on the door of the cell and says: “Rabiya, go outside to see what beauty, what nature, what flowers!” She says: Leave this – not nonsense, but – leave those things, what nature, what flowers, come to see the Creator within me. – See? What flowers… But the people, the earthly ones, what could she explain… As I told you: the wilted flower has gone into freedom, it took its fragrance and hid among the angels… But the person sees a wilted flower – they cannot see its beauty, they are happy only when the flower is in bloom which is a very limited, poor viewpoint. This is why I am telling you, we will speak of the Atantean way.

To the Pure Love God gifts Peace. – To the True Love. This is one of the signs that you have True Love. Not serenity, let me explain the difference.  There is common peace, serenity and Peace. Common peace is when you have mastered your mind – people in the world sign peace treaties – there is no such thing, contracts do not matter here.  You have to have signed a peace contract within yourself. Common peace is a mastered mind. Serenity is given to the Soul – the higher Soul has serenity. Peace is the highest degree, this is Pure Spirit. This is a big Inspiration and this Peace, which is indestructible, you cannot touch… There the atomic bomb cannot go near.

God is the One Who gifts True Love. – So, people seek True Love. If they do not find God, they will be disappointed. They will seek it, but they will not receive it. Or they will receive a small part of it, because they have sought a lot. But God is the measure, God is the giver Himself, He is True Love Itself. How is it possible without Him…

Apollonius of Tyana says: I drink but one Elixir – the Elixir of True Love.

This Love is something you can never get enough of –True Love. There is no quenching, there is no end. This is your Primordial Completeness – it cannot be quenched.

Apollonius of Tyana says, one of the Great Masters: I drink but one Elixir – the Elixir of True Love. – he has achieved it within himself, he does not need a sister, a wife. But if he does get married, he will have Divine relations, he will live in Completeness again, because he already has it within himself. With or without a wife he is in the Kingdom of God. Completeness is a Kingdom of God, Peace – it is not some mere world.

Some things from the Toltecs: All the educated people in the world – let us say they are 5 million, the truly educated, – are not worth as much as one Toltec. – The educated ones – they do not know how to pass through death; do not know True Love; if you insult them, they get offended – a Sage drinks Elixir when they are being insulted, do you understand? They have a different approach. Besides, the educated person might have education, but they have no upbringing, and even if they do, they are still not masters of themselves. So, the educated person in every aspect is ignorant and this is why here we are talking of a Sage and upward – this is the measure – not a saint. I will directly say it in my way – education is ignorance – big, very big, medium, it does not matter. We are speaking here of just one Toltec, a Toltec of the 3rd degree, which is a very high degree. And there is an 8th degree, let us conditionally call it a 4th degree of Attention. There not only is education completely irrelevant, but it is a huge downfall, it cannot help in the slightest. It does not matter if you have 4 degrees of higher education, they are really 4 lower degrees. There are people… There is one person with 4 degrees of higher education, who became a disciple of the Master, and he was a student as if he started in diapers, he starts to learn elementary things, because all his degrees of higher education have confused him. I will explain:

Lao Tzu says: The Dao – i.e. God, the Truth – is not educated. – God Himself is not educated. He is Superb, He is another measure, He has no education, this is…  While the Toltecs of 7th and 8th degree have saved themselves from all types of education – all kinds! They have merged with God. And in the 7th and 8th degree they have become gods. This is where the True Way leads. Not towards education, not towards the world. And within the 8th degree there is something even Deeper, they have given up bliss  – take note, in the 8th degree, – and given up Completeness. Why? See what they say: The Eagle – God – surpasses any Completeness. We want God, the Eagle, we do not want our Higher self. – notice what we are talking about. In time we will speak.

This is why The Master says: Love has a Deeper mission than bliss. – Some think that bliss is the final goal – no. The Master says: Love is Deeper, it has a Deeper mission. – You will excuse me, but this reduces education to dust – all over the world, no exceptions. Both of the person, and of humanity. A totally different matter is Love towards God. This is where you begin, the small measure, until you become a True person.

In God, in Truth – as I said, – there is no human nature, there is the Kingdom of God. – That was it, if you have any questions…

Since our conventional, standard, uniform education is not the key to the true things, then what should one gaze at in order for it to be educational… especially for children?

Children, with no exception, must be taught from a very young age to pray. Many of our people… This is the first step – says the Master, – which in time will remove both heavy karma and light karma, and will help the children to start thinking in a right way. – And when they enter the right way and the right Love, there is no karma, because Love has no karma, Love has no fate. Fate, as I said, means to be judged. This is where you start. This is the first language, the path of Prayer – the Master says – this is the first thing in the Divine language, the beginning. – And if I am aware that one person does not accept prayers, then I know that even if they are very successful in life, in time they will pay very dearly, they will suffer and it will be too late, they will be ruined. And when it is difficult for you, but you are on this path, then you will bring sense to hardships. The fool cannot bring sense to anything. The Sage brings sense to hardships and turns them into pearls – this is the difference.

Except bringing up children into prayer and into interaction with God, with the invisible world, what other guides could they have?

Yes, prayer is not… it is just the beginning of the long Way. The other important thing is that you yourself speak very attentively and in the right way, and not underestimating the child. In front of you there is an old Soul, an Ancient Soul, something Deep. In many aspects it surpasses you. I have spoken to many children, partially to one kindergarten, and we talk as equals – we are equal. Deeply in our Essence we are equal. We immediately became friends. I had other invitations, to other kindergartens, but I declined, even in this European one here, but anyway. This is how friendship is created, trust. From trust you can already proceed. And when you speak to the child in the right way, it starts to develop a point of view which is indestructible. Its approach becomes the right one. And if you speak like this for a few years… But I say again, you must be the right person yourself. Because you could want to… Or, at least embark on this path – then already…

Now I will start with the viewers’ questions…

Are they endless?

I have only selected a few…

Ok.

I thank all the viewers, nevertheless, who continue sending us questions and the ones that are not included we will include in the following interviews on the specific topics. Let us start with one viewer’s question which is connected to something you have mentioned in a few of the previous interviews: Could you bring some clarity on the difference between criticism and making a remark in the interpersonal relationships, especially between the man and woman, as well as in the education of children?

First, I will confess: one time I used to criticise, too. I did not know the difference, but I trained for two years, because God says (not just anyone), in the Gospel of Matthew: “Do not judge, lest you too be judged.” You do not know the deep reasons, how can you make statements, opinions and more opinions… And I saw that there is a difference between opinions and Wisdom. The opinion is nonsense. The word itself means doubting, not having Wisdom, not having awareness.

When I was training, in the beginning I was criticising too, I started not to criticise on the outside, but internally I was grumbling.  – wait a minute, this is still criticising – I will be paying internally. At first I could succeed for 2 days, 4 days, 9 days, as far as I remember, because this was a long time ago. I have done many other types of training, but in this case we are speaking of criticism. In the first year I achieved a record of 58 days. And on the 58th day, see how I slipped: One friend of mine, an Armenian, he got married in England and he left, so he asked me of N******l S******y: “Do you not speak with these people, of Love, Wisdom and Truth, of the Great Teaching? “, I said: “I do not speak to rocks.” – Woe, the end! Training anew. And then, on the second year, a full year of no criticism – you become incapable.

What is a remark? The remark is according to the Law of Love. There you speak a precise Word, mildly, in the right way, there is no karma – you are not writing fate anymore, you cannot write. Criticising – the Master says – means that you are throwing stones upon yourself. – Criticism is somewhat similar to politics. Criticising is hiding and pushing – hiding something and pushing something else forward to make it more noticeable, which is a sickness, like the word “politics”. The Master says that politics lead to a negative view – whether you want to or not, it does not lead to Sacredness. If there are saints leading there, at the least, even though they cannot help either… There are others that could help and these are the Right people. God will save humanity in time through the Right people, they are from saints upwards – the lowest level is saints, but until people ripen to earn such a government, such leaders, their hair will turn white many times. Mine will turn white too, by then.

Let us test if I have understood the difference between criticism and a remark. Is the remark these words and thoughts which aim for something to get better?

The remark, spoken according to the Law of Love, with the mild and right voice, and sometimes with a strict voice, so that you awaken something in the person – both ways are correct. The Sage has the measure, it is not a problem. Then you are helping. But this has nothing to do with criticism, this is the Law of Love. And the person has a suitable moment, they are calm, receptive, they perceive this – now whether or not they will implement it – this is Sacred, it is freedom. But you are saying it as a gesture towards the Soul and the person, because you love the Souls. I do not speak for people’s minds. I want nothing to do with the mind of people. Even the ones who have mastered their mind. I am talking for Souls, and where there are conditions to help. Now, where there are no ears, no heart, whatever you say… But there you could pray that God… There is still a way, but…

Yes…  Is it possible for a man and woman who have lived together in a past life, to meet again, and… in the sense that: is this mandatory, for them to live and be together again in some way in this life, as well?

First, it is not mandatory. Second, let us say… We have two instances. In the first one, they must meet and mandatorily finish something from their past lives – unresolved relationships – they have been brought together. Whether they will stand each other or not – this is another matter, but they need to offer a hand of support to one another. And especially if one of them has embarked on the right Way, they can pray that God is between them – ‘’God, make our relationship sacred’’ or ‘’God, make our relationship right, help us’’. When this is diligent, there will be a softening and an improvement.

The second instance is: they will not meet now, they will meet after a few lifetimes, because now there are no suitable parents to receipt them, there are no conditions. There are no spiritual conditions. The word ‘’conditions’’ – says the Master, the meaning of the word itself – These are the Supreme beings taking part. – This is not merely a word. – When there are conditions, there are right parents – they may meet again. But when there are no such conditions, they may meet in 100, 200, 300 years – and the longer timeframe is around 2000 years.

Osho shares of a dynamic meditation, which consist of the following: that a person from time to time removes certain people from their life. For example, the nice and sweet part of a relationship is over, or as it is called ‘’the honeymoon’’ of a relationship, then people get tired of each other and end it. What is your opinion on this meditation?

Yes, I will tell you. But first, when I hear ‘’honeymoon’’, it is very funny to me, because the Truthful life is a honeymoon for the whole life. You are blissful your whole life, you are dedicated to God your whole life and there is no ‘’honeymoon’’ here, because that is one huge limitation and if your life is but one honeymoon, then…

So, what exactly was the…? Because I am thinking of many things…

Yes… In the sense of, about people who grow tired of each other and end the relationship soon after they have drank the nectar of the honeymoon.

 Ok. There are instances… This leads to Wisdom and the fine discernment of things. There are instances when you must tolerate the person, as heavy as that might be for you, because patience, says the Master, is the Power of Love. Being patient with evil, with the evil person, or with the heavy person, let me not say ‘’evil’’ exactly – in this way you overcome the evil in them and in yourself, as well. You overcome your mind, you overcome, let us say, the loathing, the hate or the heavy qualities, and…

Here a lot of people will be shocked.

They will be shocked by me, but I have not even started speaking yet – this is the pre-screening, the movie has not started yet. So, I was telling you a different thing: There are cases when – the other instance – when they must separate. Because one person has proved that they have a big patience, but there is no further growth. There is burden and if the person wants to work on themselves and build a spiritual foundation, a Sacred foundation, a Divine foundation – then they separate and the person begins to work on themselves. And when the person becomes a spiritual being, a Divine being, in time they will then be able to come together with such people, with such karma, but then no one will be able to muddle their consciousness, because they have a certain fortitude. You cannot be insulted, you cannot be offended because you are already stable and spiritually resilient. There is something Immutable within you – so be my guest, offend me if you want to, even all day long – it does not matter anymore because you are not there anymore, you are humbled – how will you offend the humble person? They are the Nothingness – can you offend the wind? There is no…

What does Mr. Harash think regarding gay relationships and children being raised by homosexuals?

Now…

Very widespread, especially abroad, but already starting in Bulgaria.

Now, when, some time ago, the big strike was on Pompeii and it incinerated… the main reason were the homosexual relationships. They are a heavy illness – a changing of not only the human nature, but of the spiritual nature as well. But there are certain instances – two homosexual men, let us say, have come together, they get along, they respect each other – and on the other hand a ‘’lovely’’ couple – a man and a woman – fight and beat each other all day long. Which is better? Both things are deviations of sorts, but which is better? Let us leave them free, because God has given a big freedom. Let us not condemn them, let us not judge them, because there they can gradually become reasonable and in time one man may find a woman for himself, the other may feel good on his own – they may grow from this and not grow from some other relationship. And in loneliness they may become desperate, commit suicide and go backwards in their development. I am saying: let us not judge. I say: both to the ones and the others – I wish them good fortune, but let them seek the reasonableness and what is right in things, maybe not dignity, but nobility. Because dignity is a very high measure.

And the children who are raised in such relationships, are they not robbed in some way, to call two men – one of them ‘’mum’’ and the other one ‘’dad’’?

Within the person, both energies live – the man and the woman. The issue is not in this, but what may happen: One such relationship may fail all three of them, or all three of them may grow in reasonableness and spirituality if there is mutuality and understanding. So then, where is the measure? This is why I say: I have absolute non-judgement, my point of view…

But you really do not criticise!

But there is no criticism, because people there can grow in such a way, like they cannot grow in one smiling, happy family, which sinks further down based on some earthly reasons: they are happy that they have children, that they have a house, that they have a car – which is a tragedy.

Theft, cheating, lying, violence in interpersonal relationships: How do we grade them as sins, and how do we purify ourselves from them? I will repeat them again: Theft, cheating, lying, violence.

First, it is lying.  The heaviest, it is a double sin, says the Master. If you tell a lie, there is no redemption in this life. You create a hole (in your spiritual body) and you will have health issues in your next life. In this life you may say ‘’God, forgive me, I sinned before the great Truth.’’ – such is the rule. But still, you will not be forgiven, you have already missed it. The lie is unacceptable. The Master says: all other sins can more or less be forgiven. The lie – never.

Theft – there are two cases there. It can be physical… One friend of mine had his TV stolen and he said: ‘’Hm, I think I shouldn’t watch TV, I get too carried away’’ – so, this is a gift. But when you are stealing the feeling of the person, when you are stealing their progress – this is spiritual theft, there is no forgiveness. God’s strictness will pour down unconditionally. God is unconditional – there no one can ridicule the person, the Soul.

And cheating… When we say cheating, this mostly means cheating on yourself. You have already sown something, which you will repay both as illnesses and physical problems, and as spiritual ones.

What was the fourth?

Violence.

Violence… I said it last time – especially a combination of lying and violence… When such people die, for a long time they cannot leave not only the coffin, but they are nailed to their body, attached, and a heavy next reincarnation is awaiting them. This is why I said this, so that some may draw conclusions while it is still early – to at least soften to some degree, because otherwise there will be no forgiveness. There have been instances when God Himself has said: There will be no mercy. – Not someone else, not gods, or… God Himself has said this, one occurrence in the Secret bible, He says it to Enoch. So…

First you begin with prayer, with Love for Truth and with mastery over and preservation of words. – How you speak.

I am certain that at least some of the people who have watched the previous interview ‘The Secret Of Death’’ will think deeply regarding things and regarding the mistakes that a person makes in their life. But for the ones who are watching this video in this moment, and who realise the sins that are behind them – what must they do?

First you begin with prayer. With Love for Truth and with mastery over and preservation of words. – How you speak. The way you speak, the way you think, shows what you are sowing. When you start from here and you are serious, then further… Such a person will reach either my lectures, or the lectures of the Master and will read them in the right way. I have some people who do not even need to have meetings with me – one acquaintance in Italy said: I have a daughter, I got divorced, I am happy that I do not have a man, I live very fulfilled with your lectures . They are… There I have answered almost all important questions – I have been presenting lectures for almost 35 years now, so that is why I stopped in some cities, and I declined for abroad. If I wanted to make money out of this – I was offered in England $3000 per hour to give lectures. But I will never go for money – never! There is no way for that, in fact. I will go humbly, quietly, sincerely – concealedly sincerely – and I know how God and the Master will arrange my life. But I declined these things, because first is the Truth and then is the gain. If you swap things and their places, if you place the gain first in your life, then you are already a buried person. It is even worse, but here I am saying the soft version – you are already one of the buried ones. The Truth is first, and then the gain comes – God helps you, but you already have the measure. I have lived with 250lev a year – I do not know if you understand me, and I could have reached to 130lev, but I did not go into extremities… Because when you feed on Love, on Wisdom, on fresh air, on your Love for the Master, for the Word, for God – they satiate you so much, that there is very little left for food. Very little. The Pure air itself… anyway.

Let more people give thought to all these things that you are sharing with us. And, finishing the topic on the woman, the man, the child… I would like to ask you: Is it possible that the meetings between a woman and man, who in time have children… That these meetings are a reason, which is in result to this specific child or these children being born to them… As a whole, that the meetings of the man and the woman are caused by events that have already happened in the future?

No, not in the future. But events that have happened in the inner realm, in the Concealedness of God, in the Divine Conception.  Because in God there exists no future. The ones who believe in some future – it is a wrong aim in itself. You should believe in God, in the Truth and in the Divine Conception. You do not need a future. The future shows that people have been misled by their mind. The mind believes in a future and a past, because it misses them – it cannot live in the present. God is always in the present. He is here. God is here now, too. He is here at all times. Mohammad says: If you believe God is by your side, He is by your side. If you do not believe – He is still by your side – whether you see this or… Anyway, what was your idea precisely? Whether they will come together because of future… because of the reason of the child?

Yes, so that… In a way, they may think ‘’I like you, you like me’’, but in reality all this is happening in order to create the conditions that in time certain children appear there.

So, we are not speaking here that they like each other… The karma has liked them. They must come together, karma has loved them, fate has brought them together. And it might be a large family, it might become a whole kindergarten, it does not matter – these are past friends and enemies gathered together, says the Master – to solve their past relations in the name of growth. – Whether they will realise this, whether they will seek Truth and Wisdom – this is… freedom. The matter is, they have been brought together according to the laws of the Divine Conception. And the angels of destiny govern the karma, we have explained how they act, they gather all these Souls together in the name of development and each one in their own way – because everyone is composed differently – each one embarks on their own way in this collective.

And my final question: For those people who have decided to follow the deep spiritual growth and the devotedness to God, but they have a family, they have kids – should they, towards the end of their life, withdraw and live in solitude?

The one who has truly chosen development – nothing hinders them. A person may go in a monastery and be worse off there. It is an inner matter –now, in the New times, the monastery is internal. You can use the relationships to observe how you speak, do you speak sincerely with your children, are you a Deep friend of theirs, do you underestimate them – because you have no right to underestimation. In fact, your love for these things, your approach – and already you do not need to withdraw, because God wants these relationships to… You have nowhere to run. Well, if we say conditionally that you have to run somewhere – I say: run to God!

Thank you very much for this interview.

I am grateful also.

Translated by Ruah Ezekiel

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Of Love between people, Interview from 25.11.2016 pt. 1

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Of Love between people, part 1

Interview with Eleazar Harash
held on 25.11.2016 by Portal12

Hello, mr. Harash. After the deep topics of Atlantis, the Secret of death, the Secret of evil, which until this point we have talked about, today we will touch a topic that is slightly more on the surface of life, but is still connected to certain relations and to the deeper things. Namely, we will talk about the relationships between the man, the woman and the child. And so, let us start with this: What is this deeper thing, which makes people seek each other and create a family?

Seeking is a very important thing, but the Master (Beinsa Douno) says in one place: Before such seeking, before seeking others, you must have first sought God, because He gives the measure. – And so: if a person has not learned to love God first, in the right way, they will not be able to love others either, and therefore it is good for this seeking to be redirected. Whoever has found God, they are going to love people in the right way, they will love themselves in the right way, they will even have a relation with their Heart. The Atlanteans say: One has to introduce a Sage into their  Heart, to converse with Them. – This seeking, of this Impeccability – completely different approaches follow from there on.

And following this logic, maybe a person can bring to realisation one interpersonal, true, deep love, from which a truly quality family and children may follow, if before that they have lived in solitude, retreat, and in search of God?

Yes… True Love – this is a participation of God. If God is not between people… this is why we come to this again: First is God, and then afterwards He is the Third One between the two. There is no way to have True Love without Him, because He Himself is True Love. First, we will explain the approach here, I will start in a bit, and then we will see what is the woman, what is the man. Because we need to have… we need to know what we are regarding – this is regarding a Secret of God.

Before we enter deeply into the conversation, the counter point of what I gave as an example and of what you speak of – what we widely see today – how people have a number of quickly changing relationships – does this not exhaust a kind of a reserve of feelings and emotions, which leads to a total impossibility for them to find the right person after a given period of time?

When the person themselves has not become the right person, then this is not only exhaustion, but they ruin themselves, they ruin others. All those who have chased God away… We have talked, and next time we will talk about the Deep Christian Wisdom and the Secret Christian Wisdom (there is a difference) which is even deeper. There we will see the Deep Waters that is this Primordial Christianity, which is now lost. But still, people aim for that as well, because there the matter is of a life within God, and a life within God cannot be untrue. People’s big mistake is that they desired to live without God and to arrange some relations, which cannot be true without Him already, because He is the basis, He is the foundation.

So, now. First I wish to say that when people lost the approach – the approach is primary – relations came. What is the difference? Approach is from the Spirit – Pure Spirit, and from the Soul, – and relations are from the mind. The mind is a fall. Relations teach you, approach changes you. In relations, in the mind, the person says “Yes, yes”, but they do not learn,  do not change. The approach is something else, the approach is a change. The approach is Ancient and it is uncreated. Those who had the approach, heard the Ancient Voice, and those who lost the approach, became fate. The word fate comes from “judging”, “judged”.  Judged humanity – i.e. this humanity. Approach is something deeper than experience – take note – even than experience. It is deeper than the world. It is Love towards The Ancient One, the Divine Creator. The approach is Occult Wisdom and experience is something which must mature for a long time, and if it becomes Spiritual and Wise experience, then we are already touching the…

And can we also say that approach is connected to our sense of intuition and to make here the connection with choosing the right person through the voice of intuition within us?

It is connected to intuition, “In Tao” means God Within, and when we have chosen God, we have chosen something more than what is right. Then He will choose our path, our destiny, and then it does not even matter whether you have a person with you or not – you will have God. Whoever has God for a friend, they are already above things.

The approach is a Shining Guide – in this connection, – while the person does not know where they are leading themselves – the ordinary person. Pure approach surpasses all methods and techniques because it is Love, not some technique. When the spirits lost the approach they became people. See – the fall from Spirit, to become a person.

And here I would like to explain something about the woman because this is a very big matter. We will not talk at all about what worldly people and the scientists say about the woman. Even when they praise her, they do not know what the matter is about. They do not know what the woman is, nor have they seen the Soul. They might give quotes about her, but they do not know… And this is why I want us to see what Ancient Masters and Sages say, because they are a measure. What is she? So, let us hear the Wise ones. The Ancient Thoth says:

The woman is an Ancient Flame of Love, descended from the Great Reason.  When this Flame descended, it became woman.

The woman is another name for the Divine Soul.

The woman is a trembling of the Ancient Fire, of God Himself.

The Primordial woman was created as Endless awe.

So, there is nothing ordinary here.

She is a Great Soul, a Goddess descended.

She is a Great Mystery.

There are a few types of women: a spiritual woman; a Divine one – the highest degree; and an earthly woman – ordinary. Let us say the differences. The spiritual woman lives through the Power of the Mystic Fire. The Supreme, Divine woman, has returned into God. She is not seeking anything else, for her the world is poor, the other world is poor. And the ordinary woman – through her earthly desires she has scattered her fire, she is scattered. And she cannot collect herself, because she is thinking about survival, children, problems with herself, she has missed something Essential.

The True woman loves through the trembling of her Ancient Fire.

Here the matter is of Mysterious relations of Love, on a Deep level.

The woman is a Temple, descended from the Ancient Soul of God Himself.

See what we are speaking of?

She is a Mystery. Created for the gods, not for people.

This is why people do not have the approach towards her.

The Primordial woman is a Supreme Soul, composed of Sun.

Here I will divert a little. For God it is much easier to create the world, but when He was creating the Soul… (there is a Secret creation of the Soul)… It was created out of very condensed and special Sun beams. So, see where it originates? This is why the gods are amazed. People feel there is something there, but… we are speaking of gods, and of Sages and Masters.

When the gods saw her for the first time, they were amazed, because she was something from the Secrecy of God, something from His bursting into Flame, and they were in awe.

So, not just anyone, but…

In this Anciency, the meeting of Souls was the meeting of Suns.

There is no person to person here. I wanted to tell you what these relations lead towards. And if the person does not have this gaze, this outlook of the world, all their other outlooks… The Master says:

The Soul is from Higher worlds, of which we have no notion.

The greatest expression of Love is the Eternal Soul.

The Soul reveals the Boundlessness of Love; and Love reveals Him, Who Himself is Great Love – God Himself, the Creator.

Only the Enlightened ones know the Soul, the others are seeking it or talking something of it.

Now, if you ask me, I have seen the Soul more than six times. Twice of deceased people, four times of living people, which is amazing, but it has no explanation. To a certain point something can be explained… and by the way, it is not entirely non-material – it weighs 33 grams, says the Master. Very fine. And in the moment when the person dies, these 33 grams of fine energy, and something deeper than energy, separate… While the Pure Spirit is absolutely non-material, but because it is too fine… the Soul was created as an intermediary. Through intuition the Spirit enters into the Soul, and further down it cannot. And from there, the Soul transmits to the Pure Heart that, which must be transmitted.

And so, what does Orpheus say:

Love is the hymn of Anciency.

And he says:

My feelings are flowers.

See, what approach. We are not speaking of emotions here. Here we speak of…

Love turns the heart – says he, – into a Gracious river.

Love is a Mighty Goddess – and says Orpheus, – whoever does not understand her, she instils death into them. –  when there is a violation… – and whoever understands Love, they acquire eternal impetus, an eternal flight towards God.  – In this sense Love is created as a gateway towards God Himself and the woman can ignite this striving towards God. This is why… The woman is no slave, she is not created for inferiour aims. She is a gateway towards God Himself – for the one who understands and appreciates in the right way.

Your Love is a flame – says Orpheus, – more terrifying than any weapon. It cuts… – about Love, – …it cuts through both darkness and light. – notice, of what impetus is the question here.

Even the most ancient and darkest chaos knows nothing of the Origin of Love.

I am speaking of Love, because it is the approach, but whoever abuses Love, then strictness appears – the other face of God. Some call it cruelty – it is not cruelty, it is strictness, and it is strictness because it is justice.

Even the most ancient and darkest chaos knows nothing of the Origin of Love.

The man is another Mystery, but if he knows himself as Pure Spirit. – Because he is not Pure Soul, but Pure Spirit. Here we are speaking of the initiated, of the True man.

This Spirit is Great Reasonableness.

The word Spirit, says the Master, means (as the closest translation to people) Absolute Reasonableness, not only to some extent – this is what Pure Spirit means. Absolute Reasonableness, and not just some reasonableness. It is given only to him to study the Secrets of God. – This is what the bible says. He can penetrate into the Secrets of God, he has been Primordially allowed, and he can come to know them. The Soul cannot. It can merge, it can experience Love, but it cannot know the Deep things.

Some things about children, but if you have questions… because it seems you do?

Could we say that there is, or more so, that there is not, according to your last sentences, a balance between the man and woman on their path from this materialistic level and fall, in the degree of development back towards the spiritual development? Is there a higher degree of responsibility for the man, or, respectively, the woman, in the process of returning to the Divine?

The big responsibility is everywhere. The man has a huge responsibility towards the woman. The woman should also have big responsibility and mindfulness. The child also has responsibility and, according to the Master, even animals have responsibility. Animals that attack other animals, plants that attack, everything is being written down, and everything carries responsibility and there is no such thing as impunity. There is nothing that is not being written down.

A little while ago, when you were clarifying about the Soul – how it was created – I will allow myself to add something, when does the Soul actually descend – during conception or during birth?

The Soul is already taking part in the actual process of birth. Invisibly it descends, it enters. Let me say something here, which some people will find interesting, but it is not merely interesting – it is words of the Master. The Master is the Supreme measure, He surpasses sacred books and everything else that you could think of, but this is another topic. Sometime, if we have to, we will explain.

So, He says: The woman does not give birth to the child.  – He explains it as necessary: The woman cannot create even one hair, not even one fingernail. She cannot create the eye. If she creates the child and the child is blind, she does not know why it is blind, if it is deaf, she does not know why it is deaf. – There is yet another Secret Mystery here – where do eyes come from? Such matter is not found on earth, you cannot find it anywhere. I will tell you, without… because it is another long topic. The eyes come from the Sun, the Spiritual Sun. And after death they return to the Sun – their concealed part, the part that sees. The eyes themselves resemble Suns, and for the eyes there is another secret science, which here…we will not go down that path. The right eye is male, says the Master, the left is female. The right eye belongs to the mind, the left – to the heart. The right is connected to the Sun, the left – to the Moon. And the two eyes combined, if they are purified, can give birth to the Third eye, which already sees.

And the way that the Atlanteans see, now this is… I told you, I am preparing lectures on the Atlantean way of thinking. Here I will only tell you what the matter is about, so that you see how deep the Atlantean way of thinking is. We cannot imagine! For example, worldly people – if they see a wilted flower, they cannot see its beauty. In it there is an enormous beauty concealed. If they see a wellspring ran dry, like for example: imagine that you are in the desert and finally, you find a wellspring, but it has dried up. The worldly person (let me not say “you”, so as to not offend you)… The worldly person will say… They cannot understand that this is the Divine Conception, and that they must be grateful, and die with dignity, if they must die. What do the Atlanteans see, this is something unheard of, I will tell you: A marvellous thing it is, the dried up wellspring – it has returned into its freedom! – See, notice, what we are talking about. It has returned…! – First, the wellsprings (I will only divert for a bit), are created by higher beings. Because the wellspring in the earth, let us say the small one, it does not draw water from the earth, not from the sky. A sacrificed higher being – it renews the water. If people do not appreciate it, if sheep stomp through it, then in time – I have seen such a thing – the wellspring is gone. And people say “it disappeared”. The Master says no, the higher being took it back. And, by the way, whirlpools in the sea are from the devils. The big rip currents are from the demons. The wellsprings, especially the hot ones, and the right ones, the especially right ones… they are from higher beings, sacrificed themselves. See, how everywhere… These are ideas of the Master and the Atlantean way of thinking, which, if I presented them, people would forget all sacred scriptures. Because here… God Himself is not limited to holy books. He is not found only in the Quran, in The Avesta, or the Native American Indian bible, or in the Bible. He is not limited – people are limited, their interpretation is limited. Let me not divert.

Reasonable and conscious processes, or intentional – obviously we are surrounded by them everywhere and in everything, but let us just finish the topic on the Soul, i.e. does the Soul enter suddenly at birth, or does it partially, during the years, fill up, so to say?

The Soul instils gradually, but it does not fully live in the child. This natural joy, lightness – these are all signs of the Soul. Contemplativeness, a nice radiance… But its supreme measure is an exceptional striving for God. There are such children, for example the case with Bayazid Bastami, of whom we will speak further in time, of the Sufi… The Sufi are three degrees above the saints. Three levels… What Bayazid says at five years of age. He has many reincarnations experience in God, but that is another topic. What he says, at five years old, to his mother: Mother, release me from yourself. I want to devote my life to Allah. – A Persian Sage, awe inspiring. We will speak of him and of Al Hallaj, Al Hallaj is even deeper… She says: I release you – serve Allah. – And he devotes himself to Allah, and then he achieves certain degrees, which, truly, saints can dream of. But let us leave them aside.

Does this mean then, before we go back to the essence of the topic, does this mean that a big part of people today do not live their life completely filled with Soul within?

Initially, even in strongly striving people, the Soul is not entirely within the person. Even then. Sometimes it has to rest in the other world, because if the person completely masters… There is a law, if you master yourself, the world becomes harmless. Mastery – a master of yourself, a king of yourself. But here the matter is that, if the mind and heart are mastered, the Soul can already enter and live almost entirely in the person because it will no longer be a slave. So, the heart is the reflection of the Soul, the mind is the reflection of the Spirit. If the heart is very Pure, it becomes a light-filled reflection of the Soul. If it is impure, it is a dark reflection of the Soul. It is the same with the mind. If the mind is mastered, it is a servant of the Spirit and it cannot interfere in Sacred things and say “only my teaching is right, only my religion is right”. Because, what is the downfall of the churches, for example: They cannot love their enemies. And what does the Master say, take note, we will speak in time of the Secret bible: If you… – this was given by God, not by someone else – Love your enemies – end of! You either understand it, or you do not understand it and you enter the swamp. Love your enemies means: If you do not love your enemy, you will become an enemy of yourself.  – There are no comments! You either understand it, or you sink. It does not matter that some might now say… Some even think that I am speaking against the church sometimes. Never! This is discerning. This is why we will speak of the Christian Wisdom, so that you can see what beauty, what Depth, what Divinity, we will speak of hidden Christians, and of some known monks, who… It is so beautiful there, that it is awe inspiring.

There is a law, if you master yourself, the world becomes harmless.

Talking about Souls, and in the context of the topic of interpersonal relationships – is there such a thing as Soulmates? And is there a way to recognise a Soulmate?

Souls, the Master says, were radiated, back in Anciency, in pairs, together. On Earth they barely meet, I will tell you why. Because if… They are so United, what one is thinking, the other is doing. The completeness is enormous, and there is something deeper than happiness. They are blissful, but Earth is not a place even for blissfulness, we will see later what the Atlanteans say. And the Master: Love has a Deeper mission than blissfulness. – At a higher level we must cast away even bliss, take note. So what were we talking about otherwise?

Soulmates…

Yes.

So, people who, in their purely interpersonal relationships between man and woman, say “you are my soulmate”, or the other one says “you are not my soulmate, someone else is my soulmate”, is this a delusion?

Now, people mistake Soulmates with kindred Souls. When they say “Soulmate”, they mean “you are very close to me, you are helping me” – yes, it is so. The Supreme Soulmate is… if it was given to you in this world completely, people would lose their development – not the evolution – because they would be engulfed. It is a very Supreme Love, a big overflowing. Blissfulness, and in a certain sense something more, I will not explain it. And therefore, on Earth they meet and touch each other to some degree, so that they give an impulse to each other. But usually, they live… It can be in the other world, there is such a case with an elderly woman from the Brotherhood. The Brotherhood were criticising her somewhat, she withdrew a little bit. One time she shared with me. She had no support, no close people, and she told me of one experience, in which she experienced her Soulmate. The experience was true, I weighed it internally – there is a psychic scale of sorts, a spiritual one, and there things are seen clearly. And she really experienced it, God gave her a gift. And this was her inspiration for her entire life, until the end of her life. She saw it and after this no one could take away her striving – and I am telling you, at an old age, until the end of her life – because this is something exceptional. You need to have enormous merit to be given it, and even if you have merit (I am speaking of spiritual merits, not human ones), then again, it may not be given to you because this world is given so that we develop high degrees of spirituality. Which are, including – above the Soul. And there are certain Deep degrees (there we are already speaking of the Secret Christianity) which are deeper than sacrifice. Sacrifice is an introduction, there are two more degrees, three… Anyway, let us not disturb…

Speaking of these deeper things, at least share what you think of the secret and silent love between certain Souls.

There are such deep experiences happening between Souls… And experiences connected to Spiritual Love, the other, higher – Sacred Love, and the other, even higher – Divine Love, that there the Word is totally excessive, it does not work. This is an experience that the Word cannot explain, even though I have Secret words in order to explain even such things, but again, I avoid… The Spirit can explain, it has the right words, the right Word, but this does not belong to explanation, because it is beyond measures and, on the other hand – it should not be explained because it is so Sacred that it must remain in this exchange between them. And I have told you that Deep feelings are – the Master says – an element of nature. This is why the woman can give an impulse for the man, for a Deep development towards God.

Can we say that this purely human love between the woman and the man must be such, that it is the pathway which leads the way to the higher degrees of Love, of which you speak?

This is exactly so, but we are not speaking of the human love because there are no humans here. In Love itself, the higher one, in Truth itself, there is no human nature. Forget it. So, here we speak of spiritual beings, of awakened beings, of a higher Soul, Pure Spirit, and something deep within the Spirit – this is the Secret Spark, which is even deeper. We are talking of a Deep awareness. And then, this can happen in the human nature, but it does not mean that this is human nature.

Let me tell you something about kids.

Alright.

The mother – I told you – only raises the children, she does not give birth to them. As I told you, she cannot create a hair, a fingernail… How the ear appears, how the heart is formed… A Mystery of God, and if God… Then, a child can ruin the parents. An example here, I am just recalling for a bit. Imagine that God sends a child that is crippled, blind and deaf. Now, I will explain to you the hidden beauty, because I see it everywhere, without exceptions. There are no exceptions. What I want to say: if the child is crippled and deformed, these parents have an old cruelty in them and God wants to make them softer, to transform their cruelty. In fact, next year we will be making a book on the Mercy of God. This is the concealed Mercy of God. That people may not understand us and that we might disturb – it does not matter, Truth is very precious to me.

This child can help their parents so much, soften them in such a way, so that they can in the next reincarnation… Because for one incarnation, you cannot fulfil the law “Be perfect as God is perfect.” from the bible. The saint is not perfect… they have a lot to learn. Really, if I tell you some things, we will disturb the saints, too. But I love them. Truly, they are children of the Angels – they do not have Wisdom, they have purity. They have partial wisdom, but do not have Wisdom. They are something very beautiful in this path, however, they are still in the long path of development. But let me tell you something about children. God gives birth to the children, the mother raises them. This means that the mother and father have no right to enter their own ambitions into the children. You love the child, you trust it and you give it freedom so that it walks its own path.

Imagine Mozart… If he was born and his mother wanted to make him a great artist, but he was born to be a musician. She may divert him, but then she will pay greatly – the child will have revenge, other spirits who are connected to the child will bring revenge to the mother and the parents. And they may bury the parents, because they are interfering with the child’s true nature. The child will show its character from the past, it carries it within.

And are there ways that the parents may use some method to know what the children’s vocation is? So that they do not hinder them?

First, the parents’ level is such that… There is a book by Brother Michael (Omraam) – a very good book – The upbringing of the child begins 20 years before birth. The parents themselves must be educated. There are no such schools to educate them, so the only One that educates children, parents, including Shamans, Sages – this is God. If He does not want to educate a person, even if a hundred educators come together, a hundred masters such as Christ – they cannot help the person – because God does not want to. The person has to have something within themselves that yearns sincerely to learn. They have to have dignity, have to have Soul. Not curiosity, but a thirst for knowledge – and then God will send a certain person, He will prepare them, He will give them a Master, and this Master then can disclose things which are found neither in this world, nor the other one.

Let me say something more about the children. The children are born so that they bring – says the Master – the lost Love to the mother. Because the mother – in this world, the mothers – they do not have a direct love for God – they do not see Him, do not understand Him, if they are left without a child, they may despair and go backward. And so God gives children – so that the mother can restore… Generally, every person has to love something, in this case the mother has to love the child – it is a kind of doll and also a Soul – it is at the same time something real and also… But she has to love it, to maintain this thread, so that in time she returns to Love. If she does not have a child, she should get a puppy, even an object – but there must be at least one thing that she loves. When a person loves something, they nourish this thread, and someday when they are ready… Because now… What did one sister say some time ago – she has three children. She said “If I was a true disciple of the Master, I would not have any children.” But, on the other hand – she has accumulated desires to have children, it does not mean that… The child is something beautiful. The mother can develop such love there, and then devote herself in such a way to God, that no one could stop her. So that she becomes a Soul, Fire, Flame – like Orpheus says.

And that…

So everything is in its place.

Yes…

Everything is on its level, there is no…

And this thing that the big spiritual teachers, as a whole in the world, do not have families, do not have children, is this an expression of their total devotion towards their calling to connect to God?

No, they… people would have to be very aware, so that… Whether a person will get married or not – this has been sown from past reincarnations. And in one place the Master says: There are people who must have children, and if they do not want to have any, woe unto them. There are others who must not have children, and if they want to, woe unto them. – So things are placed very precisely. The matter is: it is not so important whether you will have children or you will not, but whether you are devoting your life to God – not to the child. First to God, and then afterwards He has a way to help both you and the child in the right way.

The child is always growing – now I will explain to you why, according to the Toltecs. The child is always growing because it receipts. The old person does not grow because they do not receipt. They have already established viewpoints, incorrect ones, delusions, half-truths, they do not receipt. But here I will make a small exception: you have told me that now in Greece, in Cyprus, there are women who read my lectures, in a home for the elderly, and they translate them to Greek to the elderly…

Yes, that is right.

I congratulate these souls. There is… elderly people sometimes turn into children, that is what I wanted to say. And right now, because there is receptivity there. See, there are – not exceptions, but there are people like this, too. I congratulate these women – I congratulate you whole-heartedly, I do not know who you are, I am happy that you are helping these souls understand the Truth, because they will be reborn lighter, more rightly, in the next life. So, if you talk to them, send them regards once again.

Children are a secret world. – You want to ask something, or?

No, continue.

Yes. The child does not need your philosophy, but your love and trust. See how simple it is. Save your philosophy for yourself – it might be good, it might not be. Give your love and trust to the child; years after, if there are circumstances – tell them your philosophy too, and we will see if the child approves it or not, because it might have a Deeper Wisdom. We do not know.

(continues in part 2) – here

Translated by Ruah Ezekiel

Buddhism

Bodhidharma – excerpt from interview on 20.12.2020

Taken from “The Gnosis of the Great Masters” part 2 – interview with Eleazar Harash from 20.12.2020 by Portal12

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BODHIDHARMA

-Bodhidharma is a very peculiar world, very Pure. Mercilessly Pure – the Absolute Purity, not the dualistic one. Even the smallest criticism when you study him and you are already far away, you have missed it – the end. We are speaking of even the most microscopic criticism, because this is a being, a type of Buddha. Osho very accurately says: If Buddha had seen him, he would have wondered – because he is a buddhist, Bodhidharma – Buddha would have wondered what kind of being originated from him.

(Interviewer)-Can you point out where is this fine difference of how much these Masters and beings have retained their individual spirit, given that we are obviously witnesses of how God flows in them? The fine difference, i.e. how much is God within them and how much do they retain some form of individuality?

-Once you enter into God, you disappear there in order to become a Divine individuality – you become your own self as you have been before creation. And this is so natural for every person and every person will achieve it in time. This is the Essential Nature, the Primordial nature, in fact – there is nothing to become because you are – it is a matter of a Deep realisation, a Deep penetration into yourself. And again – if you are allowed to enter within, because there are many meditations which reach up to some point, but Buddha has surpassed meditation and he says: A person who has achieved the Nothingness and has known Nirvana – they may not meditate. – To them meditation is amusement, but they can do it as a compromise – if they decide… But they are above meditation.

(Interviewer)- Alright, but with such a state of the Soul, of the Spirit…

– Pure Spirit.

(Interviewer)- …this means that what is human and the ego are completely eliminated, right?

– There is no Higher self there either. With the saints there is also a finer ego, here there is no inferiour nature, no Higher nature, all the degrees of ego have been removed.

(Interviewer)- The question is: what do they self-create as, they must self-create as Deities?

– Pure Spirit – Pure, Aware Spirit… It is a Mystery – you want an explanation – there is none.

(Interviewer)- No, but as Deities as well, because God already flows within?

– Deities on the lower levels, on the higher levels – Gods and Elders.

Bodhidharma himself: Self-created.  Of him they say: Self-created, a rock, an Absolute Indestructibility. He is Truth in a body – Bodhidharma – we are speaking of him and others like him. He radiates a Mighty and Pure Speechlessness, there is no knowledge here.

Buddha is his Master but he has his own Sound, he has achieved it. He is such a fierce loyalty towards the Truth that Buddha marvels at him.

Bodhidharma does not speak, he resounds. He burns as if he were a dragon – really, a living Dragon – such is his style. He appeared somewhat wild – nothing like it, he is Primordial within. He crushes all rituals – see what he says – as a whole, rituals… There are exceptions – in every Secret Teaching there is one ritual and one only – a concentrate, everything else is… and it is done in special… So, he crushes all rituals, he says: The Truth within you is the Saviour, rituals are useless. (If you have entered within Truth, what kind of ritual will you perform to the Truth and the Nothingness, what will you show to them? Conditionally to God – yes…)

A rarely insightful Spirit with a lot of raw discipline – self-discipline, imposed out of Love.

All charities are useless shadows. They do not mean that you are within the Truth – notice – they are not a Temple.

Good deeds in the world are illusory ghosts. What is Essential is: are you within Truth or not? Your good deeds, leave them – are you within Truth or not? – an idea of his.

Bodhidharma is a very Deep Spirit, a very Deep Truth. Scientists have not comprehended him, nor Buddhists and such – pundits, Brahmans -because the Truth is not scientific. How would you comprehend such a Mystic – you are in science, He is within the Divine will and the Nothingness. And the Truth is Boundless, it is not scientific – for science, its time comes and it dies. The Truth is Boundless and Mystical. He lives on the earth not with scriptures, but with God and with the Truth – the most important thing, the Essence.

Such a being you cannot approve of, just forget about it, you cannot criticise him, you cannot praise him – there are only two ways – you either follow him, or you do not – everything else is… If you do not follow him, this is your funeral.

What is Essential is: are you within Truth or not? Your good deeds, leave them – are you within Truth or not?.

If you are seeking knowledge, you cannot comprehend Bodhidharma – again a wrong approach. You must sincerely look for the Truth, then the connection with him and with such a person, happens.

Bodhidharma is something of the Abyss, something of the Boundlessness; he has descended and has become part of the Truth, because he carries It. He understood every teaching because he had understood himself. Then every teaching gives itself to you, it reveals itself to you, it gives you its Core. And whoever has not understood themselves, they do not understand even their own teaching. Look, what simple style.

His Wisdom:

The Secret of Truth is beyond holy books. – There is no time to waste. The Kingdom is within, God is within, how will you substitute God with holy books, with a bible and a quran. And Al Hallaj says this as well: I prefer to be Divinely-Inspired myself, and not the bible. – This is my addition: in fact, I am Divinely-Inspired since before my birth.

The Way is to discover things Unknown – says Bodhidharma. There are no… the known things have died; here you find new inspirations – like Basilides.

What is right and what is wrong? – they ask him. – Discerning with the Spirit is right, and with the mind – is wrong.

Your actions are your scriptures – your way of life. – Look at Christ: both in the Scripture and beyond the scriptures. It is God within him that acts. – The holy books – says Bodhidharma – are merely words; and your life, especially this Concealed life – this is the Scripture.

Immediately after the evil has been committed – says he – it is already indestructible, it will already divert you. – And this is why we gradually… God knows that the purification and liberation is gradual and this is why He is patient towards people, towards seekers.

People do not know the Pure Way, because for them the delusion is very convenient. – it gives you comfort etc.

Greet – he says – the storm, and it already accepts you. – Like Christ in the boat. He greets it, he speaks with the spirits of the storm, they are friends. His disciples, you know what a tragedy – they do not even have mere faith, let us not speak of Love…

Love the storm and the whirlpool – this is your Approach to life – the whirlpool already becomes a Wellspring. – His style is magnificent, I am just presenting a small part of it here.

People want to see only what they desire to see, and therefore they miss the Truth – do you understand, what is convenient… – It is not the flesh and bones that fear death, only the mind fears it. People fear death because they see themselves as existing. – They do not know themselves as non-created, as Nothingness. The person believes that they exist and fear is natural, it sticks. And they consider themselves existing.

Every Enlightened one is a Buddha, Buddha is but One of many.

Do not want to understand the answer – says Bodhidharma – learn to sense it. – The sense is really a big thing, and Buddha explains it, next time I will tell you.

If you are seeking a blessing, this is a wrong approach. It comes together with the curse. – This is one… if you want to be good, evil has already stuck, this is the dual games of the mind, the endless mind games, it is like wanting to become a saint – you will never know the Right Way, God – on a Deep level. This is why the Master says: Saints are the children of angels. I will repeat it again: If you are seeking the blessing, it comes together with the curse, but if you are seeking only Dao, only God, then you will meet only the Pure blessing – here is the difference.

If you study the past in the right way and observe the present carefully, then the future is clear.

Punishment and suffering – this is karma in action.

The True person values Truth in its entirety, not up to a point.

Whatever life gives you, this is fruit from a seed you have sown in the past.

It is not history that is important, but the Secret of your Spirit.

Every Enlightened one is a Buddha, Buddha is but One of many.

If darkness comes to visit you, it is not darkness that is important, but whether you are armed with Truth or not – just forget about the darkness… what you are thinking of (is important).

The trees – he says, see what beauty – are not trees, but monks. The tiger is not a tiger, but a warrior in action, an Ancient Warrior, death in movement. – By the way, one tiger has an occurrence with one Chinese Master, I forgot whether he was a Buddhist or Daoist, it does not matter… A tiger aimed towards him from afar, in order to crush him, with high speed. He stands absolutely, deeply immutable, this means the biggest dynamic, within the Peace. He only shifts and slices the tiger in two with one arm. The tiger did not calculate his strength, he is still a warrior, but he has met a warrior on another level. – I just remembered…

Whatever you have been bestowed with, it was sown from your past.

Whoever practices Truth, they do not enact deeds, they enact Purity  – see, what style… Where will you meet, with the poor saint… I have studied them, I can tell you such subtleties about John of  Rila, he is very pleasant, but very poor story, there is no way that he could be a Master. And he made one fine mistake in his life, because the woman who loved him could have sent him into God much higher than sainthood (could). One beautiful young woman – but he ignored her in the name of seeking, he made a fine mistake, in his next reincarnation he will understand that she is a Portal towards something much Deeper than his sainthood. He did not understand, poor him, it does not matter. – Whoever practices Truth, does not enact deeds, they enact Purity.

If you are not diligent in Truth, your prayers will not bring you self-awareness. They will only bring you beneficial karma and a fortunate incarnation, but not self-awareness.

Only one in a million attains Enlightenment without a Master. – Because they have sown in a different way, they were a Deep seeker and when they are born – it simply happens.

There is nothing more Supreme to attain than the Samadhi of Voidness. – This is the final aim of evolution, of development.

If, in the darkness, you see a Bright Light – the darkness will disappear. – this is what the Initiated ones see, the Sages – a Bright Light, not darkness, not half-light.

Only the Pure Heart has Silence, the other hearts are whispering.

Not saying a word, you can express the Deepest Truths.

Purity and awareness – this is the Supreme Way – the Purity of Awareness above all.

Buddha is the one who is liberated through Awareness. – Buddha knew his smallest gesture, how he feeds, how he is sitting – attentiveness in everything. With this attentiveness you could never create karma. You cannot create it – you are beyond karma. This is the Divine Preconception, to be within the Nothingness.

(Interviewer)- Supreme-awakedness…

-Yes… – Buddha is the state of awakedness, of striking Awareness. – Thus says Bodhidharma of his Master.

One moment of doubt – says Bodhidharma – and you may already be captive. – If you give in briefly to one bad thought, you have already been captured – how important is the instant!

(Interviewer)- This is why the Master (Beinsa Douno) says: Try one day, even just one day, not to allow from morning until evening even one bad thought.

-Yes.

When we are aware, there is no salvation and deliverance needed. There is no need of being saved.

Only the Truth has a Clear Eye, therefore – follow the Truth.

In the Deep Life there is no sainthood – you are asking yourself: is there sainthood – there is only Boundlessness, like Buddha.

The ones who have not seen the Truth within themselves meditate in vain. – (I knew meditating people, there were some here, I do not want to say in which teaching… He curses and swears, do you understand, as I do not want to use worse words… and he meditates – such meditations will come out of this in time… I saw him desperate, but this is another topic… I still secretly… we had friendship, but this is another thing, this is concealed.)

In the Deep Life there is no sainthood, there is Boundlessness.

Whoever has had the experience of Truth, they can no longer be corrupted. If they have experienced Samadhi once, then whatever they do, they enter another level and Bodhidharma says: What is Enlightenment? This is the ability to not create delusion. To not create death.

The deluded ones unceasingly create evil in the world and they claim that it exists. – Look at Christ: what existed for Him? The world, the church, the rituals, or God? Immediately… Only God exists for Him.

Buddha is the state of awakedness, of striking Awareness.

(Interviewer)- The current topic – the best immunity is the Truth.

-Yes, the Master says of immunity: If you have one Divine thought to guide you in life, this is Divine immunity, you are already changing the human immunity.

Only people with a Supreme Reality do not create karma, they have achieved Dharma, i.e. the Truth – they have been accepted by Truth.

If your mind is Pure and mastered, then all your practices are Pure – whatever it is you are doing – sweeping the floor, in the woods, chopping trees…

When you drink the Truth for a long time, you become Buddha. – says Bodhidharma.

People foolishly occupy themselves with raising temples, statues – the other trap – and they are not able to raise Buddha within themselves, the Truth within themselves, the Buddha nature.

Discernment liberates from all evil deeds.

Here Bodhidharma had a meeting with one emperor, I will tell you about it now, it is known as a whole – I have presented it somewhere for the ones who follow my lectures.

The emperor said… He came with his whole entourage –not to someone else, but to Bodhidharma:

-I have done many righteous deeds!

Bodhidharma gazed at him and immediately perturbed him:

-But how could you do any deed, you have no Dharma, you do not have the Truth within yourself, you have no Spirit, you have no Reality.

The emperor was perturbed because he was with his people, and said:

-I built temples, I gave much for translations of holy books, I gave the people food.

Bodhidharma was laughing uncontrollably, he said:

– You are truly a fool! You have not built anything until you have built the Truth within yourself.

The emperor was even more distraught – if he could run away… but there was no way – he had already stumbled upon this. Because he knew that Bodhidharma is coming and he knew that this is a Great Master, and he must greet him – and maybe another time he will not greet him, but in this case…

He asks again:

-Then is there something holy or not?

Bodhidharma laughs again:

-There is nothing holy and unholy, there is only Truth and Boundlessness. Holiness and unholiness are games of the mind, this is a fall. As with good and evil, everything dual, like darkness and light. You are truly a fool! – in front of the whole entourage.

The emperor, as I was telling you, if he could run… but he cannot, he will embarrass himself in front of everyone. He was amazed by such direct Word, and straightforward – sincerity.

Bodhidharma – this is the fragrance of the Great Truth, like Buddha, but if you are not ready for the Truth, for you it is torment.

Bodhidharma is a speaking Spirit – some ask ’’are there spirits’’ – if you meet him, you will understand. And truly, if you go amongst the Gods, what holiness can you see there? This is Boundlessness, Truth and Mystery – and a Great Completeness. Here the saint is a stain, they will stain this world if they enter it – a fog.

The matter of mastering the mind – says Bodhidharma – is the most Essential. – Only from here you embark towards yourself and towards Knowing God. The saints do not have self-knowledge. There are some exceptions, one of them is St. Bernard and there are some other ones. – In self-knowledge there is no mind, neither light or dark mind. Pure Spirit, no impurities.  Nothing dual. – The Sage is not good, they are Love and Boundlessness. With them, both sainthood and sin are limitations, the Sage grows beyond both.

Translated by Ruah Ezekiel

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