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Eleazar Harash – Meeting between friends in the room of the Master, Varna, 5.9.2024 – Part 2

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Question: And could I ask you, in the beginning of the conversation when the question arose of this strength of the Spirit, which concentration is. If, for example, in a heavy challenge, when you have such an aggressor, like you did with National Security, if you go the opposite way, of Dissolving, in the sense of totally disappearing, as if you… as if you were not there, and in one moment they maybe cannot direct their aggression… Is this possible?

                EH: Well, in some of the heavy situations, I did over 11 hours of prayers, for God to deal with them, for God to show them. With the concentration, you already… with big concentration, I haven’t done all these prayers in big concentration, they are simply a current. But, sometime, with super-concentrated thought, then you become Spirit, you attract God and you accumulate huge power! In both cases when I have done over 11 hours, I saw how God and the Master crush them, and it is not just crushing, I wish nothing bad to them. They crush them and give them lessons, because in time they could kill people with insinuations. One of them, I still remember him, he died afterwards, he was just boiling with hatred. They were making me write these documents and lie in them, and I said: That will not happen! – They said some profanities, that things would get worse for me, I do not use such words, right, anyway. And you uphold the Truth, you uphold God 100% and the Master, and then the formulas are very strong. If you tell one lie – you ruin the formulas. Even if you say a half-truth – the strength of the formulas decreases, it is a very dangerous thing. And this is why we must be very careful when we speak, and then the formulas become power and might, and with concentration, the concentrated person is Spirit, the concentration creates Spirit. The concentrated thought is God in action, He is acting, He is on your side, and it means that you have the right to say Mighty prayers, with heavy cases of people in need. Sometimes, even in heavy need, He might stop you, so, I’ve had an occurrence like this – I start to pray because I respect the person – it stops. And he, with the second surgery – the first was successful, the second was unsuccessful and he died. And then I was given this, and he came, and he said to me what nonsense he used to do and that he had chosen the way of the world, he had to go to the otherworld while it was early, so that it does not become too late. A Great Conception governs everything. And when we are inside this Love, we can understand it, right, even though sometimes with some delay, because He knows… There is one brother, Rumen, who died – he was a very loyal brother, he helped a lot, and we were preparing many notebooks, books, when he stopped (working on) ships, for him to devote his life to the Master. And I was sure that he will. After cancer, he got sick, and I was sure that he would live, because he wanted to devote his life to the Master, but the Master took him in the other world, like our Maria from the band ‘’Chance’’, she came here from Sofia, she came to me, for a long time, anyway. They died with a big Love and with big gratitude, they did not say: Why did the Master not help us? – Huge  trust, and in the very next incarnation… And I understood, because brother Rumen in his previous incarnations has lived four and a half lifetimes of heavy materialistic life. But now he is Entirely Loyal to the Master – he loved the Master to such a degree, that he believed that everything, which is happening – the sea, the wind, the air, everything – is the Master. And the Master is everywhere – He is!

The word ‘’Master’’ is deeper than the word ‘’God’’, right. It includes both God and the Absolute within itself – it is a fearsome word! In this book of the biography such things are brought out, nothing to do with Nikolaevka, diplomas, paneurhythmy… We are speaking of the Master as a Totality beyond the Universe, where He is leading us. He is leading us beyond. Not within the Solar system – beyond the Universe, there is no… This is why exercises in concentration are important. In the Image of the Master, in the Third Eye of the Master, in this (the Crown chakra) of the Master, in the Heart of the Master – so that He is imprinted, and in an important moment, when you call Him, right… Like I was in the woods and the occurrence with the wolves, right, no sermons work there. Fearsome wolves, three huge, big ones, they gave out this roar which meant: We will rip you apart – no comments! That was… I did supreme-concentration, I forgot my name, there was no time for fear, I forgot the woods, the sky, the earth, the wolves, the body – everything. And in a little while – you become Nothing, with focusing the thought, you disappear. It is called… I have done it thousands of times, maybe hundreds of thousands, but just to be sure, I say it… and maybe even millions. And with supreme-concentration, you disappear, you become Nothing, God enters and the matter is solved – you become an Open Door, and the wolves turned around and just like they appeared, they then disappeared, but Love towards God is required. The woods give such conditions, but you must not go to the woods, or to a monastery, as an escape from the world, in order to run away from bad people and… You must go out of Love, or when God and the Master are sending you – then it is in its right place. With running away, nothing happens, wherever you go, Love is…

Question: Even if you run from one problem, another one will catch up with you.

EH: A bigger one in time, yes, because the small one is given to you in order to escape the big problem. The small enemy, parasites – in order to escape the devil. The devil is given in order to escape the demon, and in the last resort, the demon is given to you, so that you can be saved, if you even understand what the matter is about, because demons are heavy tormentors, right, so – heavy passions, dark, heavy trials, more or less engulfing, right. The devils are in-between, the parasites are child’s play, and you must begin from them. Such people, close, offend you – for free, you must rejoice, and they temper you, so that God can enter into you, and in time, when God begins to live in you, who can offend God in you, in time, when God is within you? This is already child’s play! You listen and do not hear! And there is no way that the insult can touch you, and there are people – for two insults they kill each other, because insults are living beings, and when you give this insult big influence and energy, the ego enters, the dark forces enter, and there it is…

Question: I.e. this is like it is with the Toltecs: Where your attention is, and what you focus on, that is what you increase.

                EH: Yes, if you are focused in God, the insult, it, still in the air has… it has disappeared, it is even, there are Sufis, so advanced that they do not hear it. Clearly expressed, loudly expressed – he does not hear it! Because he has no connection to inferior beings and he cannot, and they return back into themselves, they cannot take anything from you, because there is no fighter.

                Question: In the case when, if the person has a situation in which they blame themselves and think something critical of themselves, or something…

                EH: You have no right to that either, because you are criticising God within yourself. No criticism towards people, nor towards yourself – it hinders.

                Question: So, the attention must be only towards Him?

                EH: Yes, God, the Master and Pure things.

                Question: Otherwise it is like the Toltecs say, you give away your…

                EH: Yes, with one taxi driver of mine, we were traveling, and there… such, let us call them… They call them mobsters, but you never know, because there are so many members of TIM now, who are praying like… Harder than (people of) the Brotherhood! I know a few, they started with the interviews, in the Way… Anyway, we are travelling with this taxi driver and they overtake us, two tough guys, and when they should not be doing so… I said: Greet them and apologise! If… And they are shouting as if it is us who are at fault! Apologise again – this is a martial art, they have already been defeated, there is no resistance and they are left hanging, and these spirits enter into them and then what will happen is their own problem. This is the approach, the kind word, the exact word, it does not matter that it’s their fault: I am sorry brother! – Greet him and the spirits of Light push them in another direction. Here I will tell you one precious thought by the Master, towards the end: Be Pure in your thoughts, in your feelings and in your actions. If you are not pure, you have no excuse. – You may justify yourself: but so and so, but there is, and he so and so – no! You have no excuse! We are speaking, we are speaking of the disciples.

                Question: …in the backpack, you put it in the backpack behind.

                EH: Yes, yes. You shift it, right. One impure thought can sometimes mess up your life in such a way, to… the negative thought. To cripple you in such a way, to ruin you and bring you into heavy… a heavy afterlife, heavy incarnations, and we do not see this. But sometimes it started from such a thought, if you give it a lot of attention and energy. Why give your attention to it? Give it to God. Why give it to conflict, give it to God, to Tranquillity! And when you train this, there comes a time when, even if you do not want to, you become calm, you simply have no choice. Then you enter into Peace, again, you have no choice, because it becomes a way of life, and insults are one joke. The ones who insult you, want to take energy from you, they have no energy of their own, they have no wellspring, they have no tranquillity, they have nowhere to draw from, they have no Love. And sometimes, in this way, a person is sent to you, right – I apologise, thank you… – if you say to them: Can you tell me another insult or two? – They will wonder what to do with this… I have had such.

                Question: On the plane I watched a film… Taken – where they kidnap girls, drug them, turn them into prostitutes – very cruel things. In such cases, for example, a car accident looks lighter in a way, but when it is with particular cruelty, especially heavy events, then how do we… what should our approach be, is there a more special Conception of God in this?

                EH: Well, because He is everywhere, and He wants to teach both ones and the others, and they find their ‘’master’’. And in that one, one of Sylvester Stalone’s last films, did you watch it? The one about drugs.

                Question: No, I have not watched it.

                EH: Yes, ‘’The last’’… what was it called, ‘’The last kill’’ or something, I forgot. And so, they take one of his close ones, they do things to her… But then he gives such huge justice – God in him – he blows them up, he messes them up… they beat him up, but anyway, it is a powerful film, one of his powerful ones, a film with an idea. But I want to tell you that when someone treats you cruelly, they must change your old cruelty, from past lives, do you understand? It is accumulated and in time it could become big trouble for many people. These cruel people too, they play the role of being cruel in this case, they will also be smitten by cruelty itself, because they have entered into this trap, and in the end everyone will learn their lessons in this way, God will set them up with illnesses. Like politicians, right, they cannot love other politicians, to say something nice about the other politician, to see it – it is there. The Master says: In every person there is at least two nice things, if you do not see them – the error is in you. And the same with those people – someone is cruel in order to heal something in those ones, and in time God will crush them in turn, because that is how cruelty acts, both ones, and the others will learn lessons, and in time they will become like cotton. And heavy illnesses will also refine them like… because there is no… health does not help!

                Question: So, there we must be humble…

                EH: Everywhere! But if you… There are close ones: God, if it is Your will, You save this Soul and lead it in the Way towards Yourself. – But with added ‘’if it is Your will’’. Because His will might not be this, and we do not know, as I said to you, what is good. That is why the Master says: When you do good, have you asked God?  – because there are some in the churches, they cure someone, they rejoice that they have done good, and that one can continue to live stupidly, an ordinary, semi-spiritual life, semi-truthful, which is the biggest danger, bigger danger than here. Because here you are at the bottom, with the demons, and all of a sudden you might want to become a Truthful person, because that is torture – the last degree, after suffering. And the ones that you say – cruel people. And from there, you may start afterwards, to save Souls and to help, and anything might happen, right, or at least you could be softened. Or as a last resort, to repay your heavy past, for which you have descended. There are people who have come to earth to meet, to hate each other deeply, others to love each other – in any case, everyone must change. The ones who hate each other, have descended in order to give each other a hand, because this will continue in other lifetimes, like this woman from Finland I told you about. If she had murdered them, they would be chasing each other to always kill each other, what would you need such incarnations for, when you have descended to repay and then to come back. Why do people reincarnate, right, and why… the Master says: Why have you been born on Earth? In order for your situation to improve. – Now, how much we will appreciate it, this is why we have been incarnated, to improve our life, so that our life in general can be improved on a high level – spiritual. Now, whoever does not realise this, will have to walk one heavy way in time, whether they want to or not, but these cruel people –  in time another kind of cruelty awaits them behind this, which is the heavy kind. They will be disfigured from infants, they will be ground by suffering and torment, and in this slow way, like this woman in Germany… Many people come and tell me of problems and when I give… one acquaintance went there to look after her – heavy situation, no arms, no legs. And when I tell people, they understand that their problems are flowers, right. And this is very heavy in this case – cruel. But, this is a Concealed Love of God, which gives her a chance to repay her incarnation, because she has cut off arms and legs, says the Master. And the blind have taken out eyes of other people. To repay, in time she will come back, she will be born with arms and legs, whether she will choose the Way of God, this is her matter too. Do you understand how important it is for some to enter, even into cruel incarnations? Yes.

                Question: I have one more external question, but…

                EH: It might be internal.

                Question: Ok, I will say it this way. What has the Spiritual world, the Divine world, instilled in salt, as a purely physical manifestation? Was the water in the seas and the oceans always salty? Who does the Truth from the Supreme world serve here, on earth?

                EH: Well, for the world and for the seas, salt is in its place, because fearsome forces would develop in the seas without salt – monsters. The wellspring must not be salty, if the wellspring is governed by advanced beings, but the rivers, the seas – they are things which seek God. The wellspring does not seek, it has found, the wellspring is Self-knowledge, and this is why it does not need salt, at a high level, it is saltless, i.e. the True water has no taste, no odour, it is Water of the Secret. Of course, the Deep water is Love, and this water, the pure one, is the secondary water, right.

                Question: (Salt) prevents from evil, so it does not develop?

                EH: Yes, it develops anyway, and in the sea there are fearsome beings that live, but salt prevents nonetheless, because otherwise, with the big rotting, cruelty would become… It is big there in the first place, right, but it would become overly so, right. And there is some measure, in a way, putting a lid on it, some limit.

                Question: And the dark, bad people, do they have an instinctive fear of salt?

                EH: Well, it depends personally here, some may have… For some it is good, for some – not. But it is not a matter of salt, but of your state. And if you take in a small bit of salt with Love… everything, taken with Love, gives you something. Everything, done with Love, increases God.

                Question: So, the matter is of this prayer: Oh, Great Mystery, You are the Word… Pour Yourself… When we say this, I ask the Absolute to pronounce, deeply within me, Secret Word, or do I mean that for the Word to flow in us – just for it to flow in the form of Dhikr? Meaning, what am I instilling when I say the prayer, because I am now saying it a little bit… I am reciting. We want to know what exactly is invested, what is the idea, or is it both, because it could be both.

                EH: In these prayers, there is Deep Spirit instilled. Right, Oh, Great Mystery – tomorrow you will hear it as a song. A wonderful song, marvellous, sang by AI, by the way. And it sings it in such a way, with so much Soul, that many thousands of singers must leave their job. So finely, so beautifully, anyway. So, you must sense, you are obliged to sense what you invest – is it your mind, your heart… The Master says: With the mind and the heart you can never do God’s Will. This, on a higher level, the Divine Will, because the mind is a shadow of the Spirit, the heart is a shadow of the Soul, but when you purify them and master them, in the mind – the Spirit will be born, it happens gradually, and in the Heart – the Soul. Now, the True Heart – the Heart of the Heart. The Fine Soul, it is a marvellous thing, the Soul, I have seen it, anyway. Only God – the Gods are unable to do such a thing, nor the Elders – this is the Concealed God and the Absolute in Him. So, even if you are saying it mechanically – be diligent, make efforts. Small, sincere efforts, in time it will happen from the Soul, in time – from the Spirit, in time you will learn to disappear in the Word. Do not worry if you are saying it mechanically. So, some have stopped praying, because they say ‘’I do not invest mechanically’’ – the spirits want to make them give up and in time it will become even worse. And when you make an effort, in time… The Master even says: The mechanical prayer also helps. – And in time it will become spiritual, Sacred – there are degrees – Divine, and there are three degrees of Absolute, those are already…

                Question: Let me ask you something about mechanical prayers as a plus of sorts, that they help you in a real way to be liberated from the mind, maybe?

                EH: Yes, they are a preparation for liberation from the mind, and in time, when they become a strong habit… There are people who pray for almost everything, and the mind has no place to enter from, and more and more the Soul and the Spirit are born, and this is… This, incessant Dhikr, it will remove the mind from any point of view, and it will become one white… it will be a servant to the Soul and the Spirit, because it has no right to interfere in Sacred things. It must be a servant of the Divine Will, and that is the aim of Dhikr – to master the mind completely, because it is very treacherous, it eludes, insinuates all sorts of things, and sometimes it can imitate right things, supposedly. There are people that say: I feel that this is right – but the parasites enter both into the feelings and thoughts, not only in the thoughts. And you think that you have a Deep feeling, but if you have not attained this Deep Immutable Love, you can be so finely misled and to imagine that you are inside Love, and in time… I had such cases, a few brothers and sisters, I do not remember what it was about precisely, but: Well, I feel it and I know that I am right. – Ok, I step back. And in time such events happened, she said: Well why didn’t you tell me? – I do not impose, I share, no imposing. And they understood that their feeling, in which they believed, they were filled with it – those were other beings. Now, I cannot argue, I have lost this – even if I wanted to, I am unable to – there is no way! Because Truth is indisputable, and when you learn to live in the Master – who would you argue with? With Him – it does not work, with yourself – it does not work, nor with others… All in all, the argument… The Truth is born in Deep Acceptance, no argument!

                Question: Why do we have the day, and time?

                EH: So, both the day and time are necessary for us, and the illusion is needed, so we can know Reality. Without contrast, right, like many are in the astral world, such dead, who do not know where they are, what they are doing, in what world they are, they do not know where they move, they have no discernment and… We must pass through the day. When we wake up in the morning and we go: Good morning. – and you are already in creation. While you sleep, there is no creation, you have no mind, you have no body, you do not know if you are a man or a woman – with the deep sleep, how would you know? You do not know your name, you have no religion, nothing – a Soul, Pure, Free, Traveling. You wake up, one ‘’Good morning’’, one coffee and you are already in creation and you do your… You have been sent, yes, in the day, the day and the night will alternate, right, until you remove both in the end and enter into – not a sunrise, not a sunset – into the Dawn. The Dawn is Primordial, Mystical, right, the Deep Dawn. And if I were to ever make a new Izgrev, it would be called ‘’Dawn’’. But the Master then, it was for the Sunrise in order to wake them up, His aim was different.*

*Transl. note: The matter is about the Izgrev area of Sofia where The Master set up a residential community for his disciples. The word ‘’Izgrev’’ means Sunrise in Bulgarian.

 I want to tell you that this is according to the law of necessity, so that we know the Depths. Then both the day and the night will fall away, both good and evil will fall away. For example, when one person begins to live in the Mystery of the Abyss, of the Boundlessness, there is no good and evil there, good cannot set foot there, and the angels cannot, and evil cannot. This is in the Deep Peace, in Completeness, in the Mystery. These things – no angels, nothing, everything becomes… There is no night and day, there cannot be, right, they are not real, and here temporarily they play some part. In order to guide us, right. There are people who mistake night and day, both help some, but do not help some others, but we must seek God, and not whether it is day or night, so we do not depend on… The day and night could be interpreted as this world and the other world, both are… they are not our worlds, right. God is ours, the Master is ours…

                Question: Why do we need forms? Why am I in this form?

                EH: This is to do with the form precisely, yes. The form is so that you come to know that you have no form, and sometimes through the love with another person you may know your Uncreatedness and to see, to realise deeply. And the form helps people to feel themselves as Souls, if they are mental people, it becomes worse, right. But the form leads you, because sometimes, when you are Soul, you are light. There is no form when you are in your Soul, when you are in the Spirit – it is even lighter, there those 33 grams are gone, because the Spirit is so fine, this is why the Soul was created as an intermediary – semi-material, 33 grams, it is nothing. And when it enters into this Lightness, it has no form, the Soul is a conditional form, but in the Supreme sense there is none, and this Soul must lead us to the Spirit. It is the intermediary between – the Soul –between… And towards the body, and then, when the Soul is purified and becomes a Pure Heart, a Core, then the Intuition enters from the Spirit. Because the Spirit is very fine, and it cannot transmit through intuition directly to the body, it needs an intermediary – the Soul. It is neither form, nor amorphous, but it leads towards the amorphous. The Spirit is, right, Pure Boundlessness.

                Question: Can we re-live a day again?

                EH: You could, during the incarnation. The more we think of one thing… Yes, some think that the Absolute is inaccessible, but when you think of It, this means that It is thinking too, and you begin to create it with your thought. And It, from time to time, has a way of revealing Deep things to you, and through God, and through the Master, and through Itself, and through Uncreatedness, through Unfathomableness, right… And to give you Deep, Mystical experiences, which are… they are not found in this world. And this is again, only in the Way of Love, right, this is the only Way, which… Without Love you cannot go near – True Love – go near to neither to God, nor the Master, nor the Teaching, nor in Wisdom, nor in the Truth. Love is the measure from which you go towards… right, because Truth without Love – what is it worth? Or Wisdom without Love, or faith without Love? It is already a game of the mind, right, and many people have ended up in this faith, which is… because when God comes, He will ask you: Do you have Love? – and there it is important, how much Love you have, and whether you are humble. Humility is a fearsome measure – we have spoken. I consider it a Sublime Quality, Humility – it is one step away from Nothingness and God already lives in the humble ones very easily – they are One. And if God wants to help one person, He mandatorily teaches them how to be humble, so that they can become His instrument, because the smallest pridefulness… In the moment when I think I am an authority… that some consider me (such), it is their problem. For me to not consider myself (such) at any moment, neither a Master, not… let them call me, some time. When I say, I know what I am saying, because I am saying it for God and for the Master, I am not instilling anything of myself, and some think that I have slipped, and I secretly reign, because it is all because of God and there is no… How could you be an authority? Even the Master in one place says: There is no Deunov – only God’s Will. – And for this occurrence there, at the end of His life, towards the end when he says, for His Teaching: One microscopic work was done. – This is the Power of the Master. This is not made-up humility, this is Deep Real Humility, this is why God and Christ wanted so much to enter into Him, for Him to allow this, and He united (with them), and this is why the Teaching is so Deep. Before all it is due to Humility. Music, paneurhythmy, they are between the rest. Here is the Secret of the Master, because Humility is the Nothingness, in which you work together with God, with the Absolute and with all the Hierarchies. Yes, there is the power and there is actually the Essence of the Teaching. Rituals and so on – yes, pleasant – far from the Truth! Yes.

                Question: Should I consider that the Soul travels and learns up there, in the other world, in the Divine or the astral, or there, where the School is? Because I have the feeling, right, I have this feeling that these last years something happens between 1 and 2 A.M. After 2 A.M. somehow suddenly it wakes me up and for example, I have some memories, some experiences, and it happens always. Let us say in a larger period of time, between 12 A.M. and 2 A.M., around 2 A.M. something always happens, for example, you climb the stairway, something happens, what else, for example, some experience. Should I consider that this is the Soul going to learn, we say that the Soul is in us, and in the Divine world. Right, you have descended with…

                EH: The Soul itself is a Divine world, it is a Deity in itself, a Divine world.

                Question: But we say, right, that in the world you have descended with a part of the Soul. Should we consider that when we sleep and when we say this prayer, the Soul truly goes higher up, so that we learn in the School of life?

EH: So, there are two moments. One is, keep doing this, from time to time the Soul will radiate itself and will learn, and in time when you attain that Fiery Love, that Fiery Thought, there is not a drop of duality there anymore. You will say it in such a way that you will not have questions like this. The Fiery Thought – in it there is no duality. The Fiery Love, this Divine Love. There, the Soul already learns in all cases from the very beginning. Right, and here, at night, you are lying on your bed, your Soul wanders to the sea, you dream about something, somewhere in some country, right – how did the Soul pass through the walls? For it, there are no walls. It travels, it learns.

                …If you start to train speaking the Truth, to observe, to be vigilant over every word, you will mandatorily say many lies. 2-3 such half-truths a month, slipped words, because… But, you have no karma already, because you have given an oath to serve, and the Truth teaches you and your mistakes are not written down – they already guide you into the light, and not in the karma – that is the difference. So, you should not worry when sometimes you slipped up with a word, you offended, you lied, you say half-true… That is the school, and in time, for a month you will make one mistake, then every 2-3 months, then one mistake a year – that is what Sages do. So that… even, Sages are sent a mistake by the Supreme world, so that they do not become prideful, so that God protects them. And notice, I am speaking to you of the Supreme world – it sends a mistake, it calculates events – not the inferior world! And in time it will become a habit and you cannot lie if you wanted to. But this is after a lot of practical work.

                Question: I once even tried giving advice to a friend, and I prayed: God, help me to give the best advice to my friend – and I felt that I should not be giving advice, but tell him to use a prayer himself, and to turn to God.

                EH: In principle, it is better if the person is asking for advice, and not that you impose it on them.

                Question: Well, I grasped something fine there, which…

                EH: You needed it for experience.

Question: …and in the (spiritual) diary.

EH: Yes, you write it down. Everything is practiced, with sincere efforts, and it starts to happen gradually, and the Spirit of Truth begins to teach you. Even, back in the day when I gave up on sweets, I wanted (to give up on) many things, but one of them was sweets. All the temptations of the world, one by one – training, but even one elementary thing about sweets, these pastries, I had to train – once a week, and almost the whole day I would get pastries, cakes – for the day. The rest of the time I do not eat (them), then every two weeks, so that it is not abrupt. I know people who gave up on alcohol abruptly and they killed themselves, and it is very dangerous, right. Gradually, strategically, in time once a month – sweets one day a month, then once every 2-3 months, and in one moment I saw that this is already child’s play. And I was visiting a friend, and his wife made some pastries with white sugar… and ‘’here you go’’, but insisting. I said: If you want me to never set foot in this house again – he immediately understood about… When you train it, you can say: The end! – and for it to be the end, right. And not to play, right, even such an elementary thing, you must sometimes train it, elementary, in order to say goodbye, right. Let us not even speak about the Deep things…

Question: I wanted to ask this too, about temptations, how do we beat them?

EH: Yes, you grab them one by one and you want for God to teach you, and God to help you. The corresponding formula and, gradually…

                Question: It is actually God that defeats them, not us?

                EH: He wants it to be, together with us. He teaches us, trains us, mistakes happen, and He wants these mistakes, He sends the mistakes, but He calculates for you, because if you choose your own mistakes – not good. He calculates them, in order to teach you, and in the end He defeats them, and it already becomes… like a musician is able to play with their eyes closed. They are so trained that they can close their eyes.

                Question: May I ask something as well, in this same connection, entirely silly, of course but…

                EH: There is no ‘’silly’’ when it is sincere. Yes.

                Question: I do not drink alcohol either, but very often I end up in companies in which… ‘’But no, it is for my health, just one sip’’… Many times I end up in a situation where I say to myself: Instead of explaining to 30 people every time why, what are the reasons if this happens, am I sick, am I not, do I feel ill, am I insane… I say: OK. I say: God, forgive me – I take one sip for (their) good health. With this, am I breaking my, how to say, my own…

                EH: Yes, I will tell you sincerely, yes. I have, gifted by many people, cognac, rakia, wine. Recently I ordered this wine myself, with aronia and brown sugar, was it? But strictly in the evening, now, sometimes I forget to… even though it sits next to me. Strictly 4 sips or 4 sips twice, which amount to one sip. It is very valuable for the discipline! Not to let loose, just as training, you make a joke with alcohol, you reign, like that! They cannot make you drink, and it is better to drink a little and to rule it, than not to drink – or to drink a lot – and to pretend to be strictly sober. I can cut it out any way I want to, like I had stopped coffee. But then, because I have low blood pressure, I understood from the Master, that it is medicinal, and that it is medicine, and I understood that my measure is two coffees a day, and the second can be decaf. And I make them in my way, with coconut sugar, which is the best kind, anyway, it does not matter, and with a little rice milk, a small thing – and it works in a medicinal way. But I had stopped it, and I can go without it, but I saw that it helps, and why would you not allow it, and especially when the Master has said it. About wine He has said a maximum of 50 grams, to tone the blood. But 50 grams is a lot for me, and 30 grams is a lot, but I want to say: I can cut it out altogether, but in this way, when I have it and when I allow 4 sips twice, they are small sips, they amount to 1 sip, and you train, and it is something like prophylactic at the end of the evening. Yes.

Question: He meant that he has given an oath, not that he has a problem with alcohol, but the question is, if he takes one sip, is he breaking it?

EH: So, the oath, this oath is not reasonable, because sometimes you might offend. Back in the day when I was a piccolo at Golden Sands, I decided I’ll stop accepting tips, but one time this German guy gave me a tip. I did not like tips, anyway, and I refused him, and he spat on me, or something, he got offended. And then I understood that I am making some mistake, and I decided to allow it, but not want it internally. I trained, I was the piccolo, who was known for not taking tips. Anyway, and in time I accepted them without… and I bought notebooks there, I had a room, I had won the trust of Golden Sands, I was a piccolo there for years. And I had a room, where notebooks, pens, I worked in it and greeted the sunrise, anyway. But internally I could not tolerate, like the colleagues. They used to leave the bags and wait… and I ran off – it’s still not right. Leave calmly – all of this is trained, so in the way of this training, in the end you grasp the measure. The matter is to be sincere towards yourself and towards God and the Master. So your oath is not reasonable, allow it from time to time, but really, only a few sips, because of the will. It will become stronger than when you do not drink and think that you are sober, do you understand me? It is simple, yes.

Question: For people, if they do not want advice, and we do not give such. Do we have the right to teach our children? For example, we tell them: Well, if you do this, it is not good for you – do we have the right?

                EH: Yes, so I will tell you. If they listen to you and they want to listen, and partially they ask you or want to listen to you – then yes. If they do not listen, says the Master: You shall speak to them in your mind, you will give them advice – God, give my child light and reasonableness, teach it the right experience, teach it the Right Way. Teach it to gain Divine experience, teach it to walk in Your Way. Or ‘’God is the Absolute Guide of my child in all its Ways’’ – for example. And these are deeper things than advice, but from time to time, if it asks you, or you feel, for example: Can I share something with you, would you like me to? – and if it wants to, you can say bit by bit, but generally people accept internal advice better, and especially while they sleep. One mother from Tolbuhin helped her son a lot, when I told her to send to him, while he is sleeping, thoughts in his Third eye – that he will find a job, that he will succeed. He cannot rid himself of work now.

Question: And when it asks me all the time: What should I do? – for everything. A different case, different.

EH: Well, firstly, it cannot ask you ‘’all the time’’, you must get rid of this expression, because in time you will enter into the lie. There is no such… you are sometimes sleeping, sometimes you do not see each other, right, and from here, you must start training. And secondly, if it asks you frequently, you will say: Learn to ask me more rarely, and more reasonably and more to the point, so that I can answer you more deeply – but always with a friendly tone. There will come a time and it will understand that it must ask you more rarely, it will do it rarer – whether it wants to, or not, because it will not have a choice. All of this happens gradually, this is why we must have great patience towards people. Patience means: the Power of Love. To await things and for them to ripen, right, and then you will be understood, even if it is a mad person.

Question: I think that because you have mentioned that each of us awaits one Golgotha, a heavy leap, heavy trials and different physical sufferings. How should we pass through them, so that they cannot remind us of themselves in future lifetimes beyond the law of forgetting? Is there some method to not allow them so much, and physically too, sufferings?

EH: Sufferings? Well, both the physical and psychic. You have heard, the Master has said: If we take them away, that is the worst thing we could do. There your lessons are concealed, precisely, your personal growth with this specific suffering, and as I have said: Each person must make strictly determined mistakes, from which they will grow – they cannot avoid them. And if they have a feeling of guilt that they are making these mistakes – then even more… The feeling of guilt is a very stupid thing. It was brought in by the churches and society as a supposed conscience. Looking at it deeply, the person should not have a conscience, but they must have Pure Consciousness – discerning one. Because the conscience is, what society says and then you do not consider God. And God has given you this suffering, in order to make a leap in you, together with you. And if you listen to the voice of suffering, instead of the voice of Love and of the Master, right… Your leap is there! I want to say, the Pure consciousness will give you the difference, why you suffer, what is God’s aim, and in this way you will shorten your time, if you accept it with Love. If you do not accept this suffering with Love, it will be prolonged, and inside you is the key to shorten it, right, or to broaden it, yes. Suffering is a privilege – says the Master. We published a whole book about suffering, as a whole, many people did not love it, because the topic itself looks such, but it is a very precious thing. Noone, people cannot become truthful without suffering and without illnesses in this world. They would simply become much more cruel, and illnesses deal with some cruel people, I have observed, how they make them soft and careful and how this person, in this way, wonders what to say not to offend you, and before they were dangerous, right. There are illnesses, they crush and they soften. Health cannot do such a thing.

Question: Is this not precisely how Love is chased away from inside the Soul, through these sufferings? And from there, somehow, afterwards, if the Soul withstands and has Love, from there, the Spirit too…

EH: If the Soul has Love, it will withstand. Actually it is God in us that withstands. We think sometime: We withstand the trial. No! He in us withstands it together with us, in order to grow inside of us, and we must be careful again, right: I withstood, I attained, without external help, no one helped me… – many beings were helping you, but you did not see them – both visible and invisible, they were helping you! Ok, is it enough for today? I will say a joke at the end. A doctor said to his patient: Do you drink alcohol? – I do! – And how old are you? – I’m 79. – You look really good! – Oh no, that is from the alcohol!. – In pure jokes there is always this light energy, it is free, it flows…

Translated by Ruah Ezekiel

Interviews

Eleazar Harash – Meeting between friends in the room…

Eleazar Harash – Meeting between friends in the room of the Master, Varna, 5.9.2024 – Part 1

The event is organised by Eleazar Harash Foundation and ‘’The Master and disciple’’ bookstore

Content provided by Eleazar Harash Foundation

Eleazar Harash: All are Souls, there is not one mind – very nice! This is it, this is the nice thing, they have started to give up on the mind – this is the best thing. Later I will read to you something here, from the Master, a little from one notebook, but if someone wants to say something, because I like to listen. Sometimes I want to listen, and in Quiet, right, but it does not work, more than 40 years, always having to talk. If you have some questions, I will try to say something?

Question: When a state appears, of total stillness, Speechlessness, Peace, and concentration into the Nothingness, even the praying Spirit stops to flow in the person, it is simply one Quietness and detachment, does this contradict the formulas­, doing the formulas?

EH: So, it does not stop, because Aum is a Vatan Word, by the way, it has flowed out from the Absolute, to flow in all the worlds, until they attain the Absolute in deeper and deeper degrees of Oneness. So, because in time, our end aim is not Christ, nor God – it is the Absolute. The Supreme Nothingness, and even there, it flows, but very finely – AUM, the Vatan Aum, there is no stopping. It is something like a constant development, a constant Oneness at different degrees, like initiations have many degrees. There are even Sages who are not initiated, it is odd, but because they help, they have pure intentions, and as a loan something is given to them, so that they can see in such a way, partially. So, it flows, it does not contradict. In fact, there are never contradictions for anything – contradictions are in the mind. If you enter into the Spirit… The mind likes contradictions – warm, cold, good, evil, or the big overeating, severely, mercilessly. I know one sister, when I ask her, she had just eaten, I said: What will you do when you go home? –I will eat again! – Right, and the big starving, the pursuing of records. Balance, says the Master, if you eat in the right way, why do you even need to fast, what for? But to grasp the measure, it means to grasp God within yourself. You must train for a few months, to grasp the sweetest bite, according to the Master. Training is necessary to grasp it, and to stop at the sweet bite, if you have made attempts – a surging energy. If you overeat with one bite, says the Master: Poison. There is no contradiction and there never was, but when you enter the mind, you can make even the smallest problem into something big, a complication, and then even bigger, and from the fly – an elephant, then three elephants, then maybe three elephants and a shark, because the mind plays, it spins people around with insinuations. The insinuation is a big force. If we have God and the Master within us, nothing is able to insinuate, even the powers of light cannot insinuate themselves to us – God and the Master are a supreme measure. Yes.

Question: Are people able to create evil, or do they just attract it with their way of influencing, with their actions, with the lie, for example, and increase it? Are they truly able to create evil in themselves, or do they just attract it?

EH: So, this, if you ask me there, in front of all of them – I will not say it, but I will say it here. So, there is only One acting one, only One God, and Osho very bravely says it in one place: He is the only killer – there is no other. Everything is implementers and we see the evil, but we do not see that He, killing this person, is saving them from even heavier karma, right. Like recently the father of one sister drowned, he was an alcoholic and if he lives a long time, such longevity – very treacherous, because then he would need to be born entirely deformed, and this is the gesture towards him from above, and if the kill is not implemented, a bigger evil truly awaits the person. There is no other acting one, right, of course, God with His instruments. There are occasions when God sends the devils with the Satanic forces – they kill. Another time in the bible, there are cases – He sends angels – they kill. When God orders them to, two angels wipe out an army, as far as I remember it was 160 000 or 180 000 people, the occurrence, because Purity is a big force and power, but either way, the Only One acting One is Him, same as with an accident – your child dies. You do not know what is good and evil, you may imagine, and if it lives long, you may even regret why it was born, if in time you become aware, but God knows, and when we accept Deeply, and this is the only way. Only the Deeply Humble ones accept everything Deeply and they make a leap in development, and they can understand the right lesson, why it happened, it can be given to them in the right way, so they enter into Wisdom, not the human wisdom, but the Divine Wisdom, but this is not for everyone, you do understand, right? Because it will disturb, they are disturbed anyway, and for years I have been disturbing anyway and I am trying some things, to be a bit more in an intimate setting, because they will make God out to be a murderer and this means karma that is three times heavier. Because you do not see, that not only does He do good to you, you cannot see… But besides this, if there were no Satan, they would blame God for every cruelty, and Satan is a sacrificed Cherub, who through evil is waking people up from ignorance  and they can understand that evil is their own, and he only adds to it. He does not do it himself, the person has become, the person themselves have become a devil, but they want to present that the Devil is to blame, but the trick does not work, because the Divine Eye sees everything in such a way – only One acting One – there is no second! If there were a second one, it would mean that he is stronger than God and he is a Ruler. If Satan had power and these killers, these ones, at the moment, nothing would be left of Bulgaria and of the world if they ruled. But they are locked and they implement – precisely, what God says. The angels – precisely, what God says. The Archangels – precisely, what God says. All murderers and dark forces – precisely, what God says, as far as it is allowed, right, and the Only One – He compels what and how to happen, how precisely to calculate the murder and the accident – to the very instant – that is it.

Question: So when we were Primordially immaculate, we have allowed something in us, something impure?

EH: We have made many wrong choices and now we speak of choices but we are limited by that, which we have done and we want, we imagine, but here, this sister from Finland with whom I had a meeting here, right, three people torment her in Finland, Bulgarians, and she said, I prepared everything, the weapon, the poison, friends, but something from the interviews, something from the Master appeared to me – she makes a change of her character – this is a change of fate. The character is the fate, this is thousands of years of shaped character and this is your fate. If you change it a little bit – you have made a big change. She is refusing, and so they will not be chasing each other in other incarnations to kill each other, and so. A terrorist – a truck loaded with explosives, at the last moment he decides not to blow it up – this is a change of the course. His consciousness, united with God’s consciousness, and Awareness – mutual. God wants mutuality, not just the person… The person can make a lot of efforts and for a long time God may not come, there is a reason, but then, when God does come, this mutual work happens, which is very pure.

Question: So this is actually the change of the intention and the choice within us?

EH: Moses also has one murder, and if it was not for this murder, he would not have been able to grow and to make a leap, and because the State is unable to punish him – he is deeper than the State, because he has God within Himself – he goes to the Desert, he hides, he does a Deep Repentance, he prays for the murdered one to be reborn, he is born as his child, Moses marries this woman Sephora, which uncoincidentally means ‘’Justice’’, and he repays everything and he grows, and the murdered one grows. We do not see this, we see the murder and we see our poor criticism, because we cannot understand, because we must attain an absolute non-judgement – a very difficult thing. Absolute Humility! Then we will understand the Deep Divine Conception and we will come to love it, and we will see that everything He does is Love, with no exception. It does not matter if it is murders, if it is an accident, if it is war. I heard the Pope speaking about the war in Ukraine – it must stop, it must… Who are you? You have no notion! He speaks rightly, but not truthfully, and he misleads people. But God acts, because He has a record – who must be killed, who must be let pass the border – and the angels enter into the military people – There, go, leave… whoever must be wounded… There is a Russian guy who has been in many wars, numerous times bombs fall around his feet – not a scratch! God does not allow – the end! Fidel Castro, as far as I have heard – over 700 assassination attempts, he keeps on living as if… De Gaulle – over 30 – where God is – the end. Yes. There is no other acting one! And in our life everything that is happening, we have sown it – He wanted it, we wanted it, He wanted it… And in the end, when we start, says the Master, to implement His will – He begins to implement our will. And that is when the most beautiful happens. If you are arranging your life, in time you will regret. If you give it so that God arranges it gradually, in time you will be amazed. In His Conception there is something Primordial. So, here I can say it with a pure consciousness, I wondered whether to say this, but what the Master has given me is deeper than reality and actuality. This is such a Fearsome Great Completeness, with which I pity the whole history of the world from the beginning till the end. I really pity it because this Completeness and Wholeness, it is before the history of the world. I can explain it Deeply, but I do not want to, and such gratitude towards the Master, that whatever happens to me – I will do anything for Him, because there is no one to stop me! Everything is for Him, life and death both pale in comparison, but I cannot describe it, because it is… and you will all attain it, because we are Primordially Whole! Right, but along the way something was lost.

Question: A thought comes to me now, that in fact, the Gift and one big Blessing in this world that we have is the freedom of choice through which we are able to purify ourselves and choose Him.

EH: Yes, yes. This is why freedom was given to you and Thoth says it: To become a God. Not to become a person. Freedom, on the one hand, will make some people devils and demons – they choose it. Others will become Gods and Deities, and there will be all kinds of beasts, and Gods, and in time, this choice, it sows you, it sows. And there are beings like in the Garden of Eden – who have never fallen. They had intimate relations, Divine contact, but they never fell into knowledge – Love remained. They remain Sublimely Perfect, others are Sublimely Perfect without contact, others are Sublimely Perfect with contact, because the matter is on the inside.

Question: How should we understand the words of the Master that with our actions, with our thoughts, we are able to alter destiny?

EH: First, thoughts are living beings, just like words. And one Ancient word, one Aum, the Vatan Aum, it can… it is deeper than the world and if you devote yourself to it, like there are yogis who do 5000, 10 000, 50 000 formulas (a day), they erase the world in all regards, there are Sufi who do, they reach up to 200 000 formulas a day – Dhikr. They are not in this world at all, nor in the other one, nor in the Universe – they are in God! The implementation of the Biblical law: We live and we move in God. Also if we choose a thought by the Master, this notebook here, it is all thoughts by the Master, I will read some to you. So He says: The strong thought is a Fire which melts everything – this is especially important against the heavy karma, right. He says: The thought that has been sent, always creates. And if it is completely focused – this is God that has been sent. And this is why exercises in concentration are important, when the heavy moments and hours come, to collect yourself. Not to be dispersed by the forces and not to know where you are walking and what you are doing, but to become focused, right. He says: All thoughts are reinforced with repetition. All possibilities are concealed in the thought. In order for every thought to act, it must be intensive. This is such a notebook by the Master, it is not formulas, it is made only of such Golden Thoughts by Him, such Sacred and Deep ones, and I read them sometimes, back in the day even before the battles with National Security, before I entered into the formulas. This is a tuning of Fire and wherever you open it, right… Here: Think that God is close to you, and He really will be close! The matter is, Mohammad says as well: Even if you do not believe, He is still next to you. Even if you do not think it, He is still next to you, but the matter is to realise it, that He is everywhere! – As long as Love is with you, you are safe. – There is not one empty thought. This is such a notebook that has been made, right, all of it, and I have a few such ones with Ancient Words, all kinds, right. Love creates one Super-Natural Presence. With the smallest negative thought – Love disappears. Here is where it is important – control. You must train this and in heavy moments not to succumb to the insinuation.

I remember one guy from National Security said: We’ll put you in jail, so and so – Absolutely no giving in, because he is not a measure! God is the measure and the Master, I have devoted my life to Him and a few times I had to die, and only when you die for the Master, it is real, both to really die, and in a spiritual sense and in a literal sense. Then you can understand Him. So, with paneurhythmy and with angel’s soup – tragedy, right. Play at it, love the Master, but you must love Him as a matter of life and death. Similarly, the same applies to the Truth – you cannot love the Truth 99% – no, it will not accept you! The Truth, God and the Master want us whole! Either you are devoted, or you are not devoted – there is no middle ground, the middle falls away. Yes. They want us totally! The Truth itself is composed in such a way, and Love itself, that what are the people of Truth set apart by? Well, in them, there is something Totally devoted. Not up to some point, not faith and faithlessness – a Total Trust – there is no faith, there is no faithlessness, they have True Love. What does that mean? They do not live in this love, in which there is love and hate – the two poles, both of them, they are both false, but temporarily they are necessary for something, to outgrow it. But there is Love which is without love and without hate – Pure Love. That is the Master and this is why He is Fiercely Important, Exceptionally, and He will enter more and more into the world, and I am reading recently some of His memories, exceptional. One sister was in a car accident and Christ appears to her and says: The time has come for us to take you into the invisible world. And the Master says: No, she has lessons to learn – and He prolongs her life. He decides! And there are many such things as a whole. Nikolay Doynov – he has been to visit my home, I have taken him to the woods – the astrologer of the Brotherhood back in the day. He is the reincarnated Napoleon Bonaparte – the Antichrist – the Master says this. He said… Around the Master there are many reincarnated disciples – Clement of Ohrid, Patriarch Euthymius, bishops, Disciples of Christ – they were in the School (of the Master). Things are brought forward and each one continues their lessons. In one moment even Stoyan Mihaylovski and Ivan Vazov started writing against the Master. The Church instigated Mihaylovski, because he had a fire quill, to write something against the Master. He started writing, and they paid him something like 300 lev, or along those lines, anyway, I do not remember. And later he was invited, like that, for the two of them to go to a lecture, and when they went, he… He said: This is Truthful! It cannot be written (against)! – He has come conscience, this person, and so… yes. So, with the Master, whoever has met Him, and when the Master has allowed – you see what the matter is about, because, in order to understand Him, you need permission, to glimpse Him.

Here: Love towards God, this is the Greatest Truth in life. Whatever Love, Wisdom and Truth advise you – do it. And this advice from the mind… – Who loves you? – the Master gives a measure: The one, who brings Purity and Life into you. – So simply speaks the Master, and so clearly, that simply… You cannot argue, no, you must go against yourself or you must be unwell so that you are unable to understand. – Culture begins with the Purity of feelings. Our feelings must be Pure. A person who plays an important role in your life – they have been sent by God. The matter is, when you have been given a person to love, to touch the measure in such a way, to want the Master to reveal it to you, to love them like God and the Master wants you to, and not like you want to. Not your desires, and then a kind of Love will appear and the exchange will be from Blissfulness and Peace upwards, not some human tragedies and comedies and so on.

Question: If God were next to the Master, what would God do?

EH: God and the Master – they are One. Whatever God does, the Master does as well, and whatever the Master does – God does. There is no… so, the Master says: In every instant I am implementing the Divine Will! A fearsome statement, which many people cannot speak, because in every instant… And the instant moves with fearsome speed. But the Master is one of those who have overtaken the instant, because He is inside God. God is… God governs the events, they are together, and this is why the Master has overtaken the events.

Question: From the book of Formulas: ‘‘I and my Father are one’’. But I feel this formula like an enormous responsibility and I do not say it. What must my attitude be towards it, when do I have the right to say it? Do I even have a right at all?

EH: You have the right, because it will teach you how to be One with Him, and this is a being which wants to divert you, not to say it – it has entered inside your mind. Because when you repeat it, God will create this Oneness, He will… you want it, thoughts are magnets. You create it and in time this being, which is hindering you, because many people have such… Back in the day I inspired one boy with the prayers, he said: I feel like an angel, it is pleasant. But his girlfriend appeared and said: What do you need those prayers for? Millions of people all over the world succeed without prayers. – Logical, and he was caught, he gave up, and both of them ended up more or less for the psychiatric ward. Anyway, it does not matter, then he understood them again I think, or something happened… But I want to tell you that there is… So, Dhikr – the devil fears constant prayers the most. In the moment when you enter into constant prayers – you accumulate God and with this prayer… You accumulate God, there is no way that you could underestimate it or not want it, or think something. Just say it more and more, God will be accumulated in you, and when the hour of your karma comes, He will let loose, the Word will become a Force – the accumulated Word. And this is why in some places big miracles happen, because there is accumulated Word, accumulated energy. Miracles are accumulated Word of God, and in the instance you could be misled and in time for it to be too late, but if you have understood me now… yes.

Question: And let me ask something about Dhikr, does the environment matter, because sometimes, for example if you are among many people and you are in a heavier environment, does this somehow affect the environment and the person themselves?

EH: If you succumb to influences, but it is a mistake, because Sufis, wherever they are – among people or without people, they are in their Heart, in their Heart is God. They are not with people, they are not in the world, they are with themselves and with God. So, you can… company is of no matter at all. So, the Master says, there is… If you are healthy and with healthy thinking, you can enter among lepers, among a plague, and not be infected, because you are not, you do not accept – you only accept God. God cannot be infected, He cannot be… So, this way you may be misled by people, and if they become your measure, then you do not value God enough and you will miss God, do you understand?

Question: My thoughts are, because it has made an impression on me, really, in public transport when I’ve been, when I’ve travelled on the bus, in some way this affects people, indirectly, in my opinion, maybe I am imagining it…

EH: No, in some it does enter, in the finer Souls, or the ones who are in a more passive state. The active ones – the mind does not allow them to accept. But the passive state, it is very nice, this is why meditation is nice, the Quiet is nice, Speechlessness, because the mind is not there. The mind cannot enter – where the beast and the monster is – the mind not mastered, which is Satan, says the Master. He cannot enter where there is True Love, where there is Tranquility, where there is Peace. And this is why the Master says: Only Tranquility can teach you to think Deeply. When you make important decisions, you need Tranquility or Peace. Peace is even deeper and this is the Kingdom, this is such a science, natural science for the person, for the Soul, but the mind does not have Peace, it lives on worries. It wants you to worry, even if there are no reasons, but some come up with imaginary reasons, they create conditions, and you, even if there are reasons, or there are not, you must not worry, because worrying does not solve anything – it increases the parasites.

Question: Can I, another question – of Peace? In principle, the Trinity of Oneness: Spirit, Soul and Body, could it regard also as the Quiet, Common Peace and Peace?

EH: So, they are Common Peace, Tranquility and Peace – they are three.

Question: The Quiet is left in this case?

EH: It is in another Trinity.

Question: It is in the higher level, in which…

EH: It is in a very high level, even though Peace is a high level too. So, the other level is Silence, Speechlessness and Quiet – the most Supreme Quiet, which is a Secret Name of God, by the way… So, Common Peace – this is the mind, to master your Common Peace. In the world, people of common peace always sign peace treaties, but they cannot master it, because it is not enough, right. Tranquillity is from the Soul, Peace is from the Spirit, there is the Limit, and from Peace onwards, there is the True Humility already, there the Nothingness is found, it is one step away. Humility and Peace are one step away from Nothingness, and in Nothingness, there cannot enter… So, where does the True disciple live? So, the True Disciple lives in the Mystery of the Abyss, and of the Boundlessness, not in the world, not in paneurhythmy, not in God, not in the Teaching of the Master – they live in the Master! In this biography that we are now making, of the Master – we are making two biographies. There I say that the Boundlessness has an end – the Master has no end. The Master belongs to the Mystery – He is Mystery! He is something Exceptional! So, you must walk from Silence towards Tranquillity, right, and from Tranquillity towards Peace. And from… I wanted to say, from Common Peace towards Tranquillity, and from Tranquillity towards Peace, and from Silence towards Speechlessness, because in Silence you can… there is no hindrance for the person to speak nonsense – silence is not gold. The Master says: Fish are silent too, but they are not Sages. So, from Silence towards Speechlessness and from Speechlessness towards the utmost Depths, towards the Depths of the Quiet, there are degrees there of the Quiet. And there the connections to the Elders, to God and to the Master happen. When you become Nothingness, you are already a natural Portal of God. God is able to live only in the Nothingness. If you have a little ego, one drop, a little mind – so that you are not Whole – then God cannot enter so that you work together and you are already an obstacle. This is why we must become a Deep Humility, Wholeness, Completeness, Nothingness, to disappear – then He can be born and help us, and in this way are born… I remember, back in the day, Lili Dimkova asked me: How do you do these lectures and these books on the Elders? Well, I said, I do the lectures with the Nothingness in me and with the something, and the Elders – only with the Nothingness, right. I cannot explain it either, but so many books came out, more or less 300, and it is not my plan, nor… Simply God wants it, because of the Souls. And it is worth it because of the Souls, right, I want nothing to do with people’s minds, even if they are somewhat mastered… The Souls, the Souls are the precious stones.

                Question: And where is the mind overcome in these degrees that you mentioned, or does it gradually dissolve and disappear?

                EH: So, the more Dhikr you do, this is the rail track of God. Dhikr is… Dhikr in us is done by God through other beings and through Himself. And in the beginning it starts pleasantly, mentally, then it starts with heart, and then Soul is instilled, then God enters into it and in the end this Dhikr, the numerous Dhikr engulfs the mind, engulfs creation, engulfs death, engulfs the world, and this is the biggest Gift given. Especially, there are Sufi, I told you, who pray… they reach up to 200 000 prayers a day. This is such devotion, they have simply… He has disappeared and even if he is before you, you think he is looking at you, for example, but he will not be looking at you at all, he is doing (Dhikr), he is used to training in all conditions. I used to have many people come to me before, I imposed patience on myself, to tolerate them, but some speak so many excessive things, and very excessive… and I am looking at him and doing my prayers, he thinks that I am listening to him, he is relieved, I am relieved too – kingdom.

                Question: What is the egregor of the Master distinguished by, when you enter into it, some telling…

                EH: The Master has a few egregors, one is of music and paneurhythmy, it is of the small egregors, they are the lower degree. The Teaching of the Master must be understood, the Master Himself – the Core. And the only thing that can know Him, this is Total Love. There is no, 99% love – you perish, right. And this Love, which sacrifices for Him and He already says: Yes, this one is Mine! And He accepts your sacrifice, because many people can be purified in the Way of the Master, to enter Deeply into the Teaching – it is not enough. They may enter Deeply, because the Master says it: I can express my Teaching with one word – Purity. And from 100 pure ones, the Master may only choose a few, because there are degrees of purity. There is Spiritual, there is Sacred, there is Divine Purity, and there is Absolute Purity. When you enter into the Absolute Purity – the Master has been captured, He has no choice. God is simply captured, too. Because the Master says in one place: I can give up on some disciples for 10 000 years – which means He has done it. The ones who present the Teaching, but internally… When you have Love, Wisdom and Truth – you have captured the Master with the lasso – I can guarantee that He cannot move. So, it is One, there is the Nothingness, there is Love, there is Peace, there is Completeness and simply mutual serving, right, and it has always been this way, and in this network can enter all the ones who serve God. Angels, Archangels, Melchizedek, Elders, Masters, Cherubs, because all Aware ones serve God and they become One Whole, and that is why connections are easy.

                Question: Because we are speaking of the Master, at what point can the person allow themselves Awareness and purification – thoughts, actions etc, to allow themselves to totally turn to Him? For generally, assistance, to enter into one Way with Him, to realise that He is helping them, even though I have realised at a few stages already that He is helping me, but I do not dare yet to turn to Him so directly, because I know that if I am not… In my thoughts, feelings, actions, I have not mastered them to such a degree yet. I am still wandering between the two spheres and…

                EH: So, if you are waiting to purify your thoughts, your incarnation may pass, there are such options too. Do not think that you are unworthy, get rid of this thought – there are no unworthy Souls for God and the Master, as they are. So, there was one (sister), they chased her out from the Brotherhood, and another elderly sister was beaten up by the leadership (of the Brotherhood) because she ‘’offended the Master’’. The Master is such height, that no one can offend the Master, it is like offending the Sun, and they kicked her there, let me not tell you, a friend helped. But another sister was chased out, and she used to come to me, back in the day when I presented lectures in Sofia, she is poor, and one time, the poor thing, took some wilted flowers from a waste bin and some soup, that were thrown away – a gift! And she filled up my Soul, because she wants to give something, she is poor, she has nothing to give, but… and since then I liked her Soul, anyway, it does not matter. So: Master, teach me how to attain the Absolute connection to You. – Do not think about when it will happen – it is none of your business. The Master gradually, He has already created it up to a point. In time He will refine it and you will know. I have had cases when precisely the Master speaks to you, in another similar case – precisely God, it is not the Master. In another case – a Supreme Being, right, and these differences are given with the Deep Love towards the Master. The Prophet Isaiah has visions in which he has mixed up things in the vision and there is… Dyonysius the Areopagite who saw on a Deeper level, in one place, corrects Isaiah’s, and Dionysius  is one of the biggest prophets. He says, in this case, he has not seen a Seraph, but an angel – the difference is big.

There are levels, and in the Way of Love, Wisdom and Truth, very fine and Deep subtleties are attained, but mostly in the way of Love. Love gives something very special, but in order to be Love, in Deep Love with someone – this is the Presence of God. Whoever thinks that without God… they may dream of True Love – there is no such thing. God and the Master are there, it is Primordial Pure Intentions. Relations from Soul to Soul and upwards – the mind is not there. And when embracing, and with any intimacy, Sacred intimacy, the mind and the world are gone, the exchange is… Supreme energies are exchanged for the Higher degree of development, in the name of the development and of the Master, on Deep levels. So that they can, in time, penetrate into the Deep spheres of Akasha, and not to imagine and speak… So, Love – two Wellsprings come together in order to reinforce each other, not to hinder each other. If two mental people come together – it is not to be spoken about, right. Sometimes, on their own, people reign on their own, others, on their own, live in… I read a joke recently, a woman said: It is something fierce at home, conflicts, quarrels, moaning, battles. They asked her: Well, wait, how many people are there? – I am alone – she said. – She… they are inside, the spirits – a school, she is going through it. And I have said this joke, but I will say it again to you. Because it shows love from another point of view, in Bulgaria or in the world: Two people met online and they met at a pub to get to know each other more. They look at each other, both of them – really ugly, huge ugliness face to face, and the woman said: Well, we’ll drink until we like each other. He said: I couldn’t drink that much! – there are such… there are some people, I know such, who must come up with a new joke every day, this is how they live. And I know here one Turkish writer, this is his daily routine, for years now. He said: Keep your head up, doesn’t matter that it’s empty! – beauty, these are such… Some, it comes to them, we are speaking of Pure laughter, which raises the energy, like the Master upholds it, and others, because – Pure energy, without profanity, without…

                Question: What would happen if a lie were spoken in the Ancient language?

                EH: Well, whatever language it may be, the lie is a lie and the Master calls it a double sin – there is no forgiveness. I.e. you could say later, like the Master says: God, forgive me, I erred before the Great Truth – but it is already written down, spoken. At the moment when it is spoken, the chemical makeup of the blood is already disrupted, in time problems await you and in time mental illnesses and you will be doing things you do not want to do. Like Apostle Paul said… but  in time, when Christ enters into him, this might be an exit point, to renounce the lie totally. You could speak it, in order to be smitten and to choose, like that occurrence in the Bible – 38 years, do you recall? I will say it for… So, 38 years a leper, he knows, when Christ comes and says: Rise, take up thy bed, and walk! – He rises, he is restored to health, right. Anyway, and this 38 year old is cited by the churches, but they do not know who he is at all, and why. The Master – Deep, All-penetrating in all the worlds, and in this person, He has even said his name: Valtasar Belamo – a prominent adept. For one conscious lie – 38 years! So, when initiates lie – it is a fearsome thing! And he, after this lie, in my opinion, I do not think he would ever again, after he was cured… He knows who Christ is, Who is coming, Who raises him, and from this lie, maybe for thousands and millions of years he will be cured, right.

Question: I am asking from the point of view of this, that in this language… we must prepare to remove the lie, so that we do not make the mistake on the higher level.

                EH: You must train a lot and be careful, there are unaware lies, in time those must disappear as well. It has happened to me, unawarely. The aware lie is already very dangerous – it leads to incurable illnesses. Not that there are incurable illnesses, but they will crush you for a long time, extremely heavy illnesses, so that they teach you, right. But they asked me once: Do you have this book? – I had 14 warehouses, around 180 000 books, I do not remember in which warehouse, and I said: I do not have it. I go to one of the warehouses and there it is! And so I do not know already whether I have a book or not, and next time I speak – immediately a correction, because it is very… This is a thrill, I am an antiquarian, with the books, I am used to it, all kinds of books, exceptional books, we picked the Wisdom of the world – both in English, and in German, and in Russian, anyway, and it is all because the Master allowed me, after numerous practices I did back in the day, to enter into the other Teachings. And when you originate from the Master – you enter in the right way. Dao, Zen, Sufi, whatever you can think of, Hasidism, Persian, Indian religion – and they are all One Whole, there is not a drop of differentiation, right, we are speaking when Love unites people, and Purity. I am not speaking of religions, they cannot do such a thing, nor sciences, nor politicians, right. This is, Love is able to unite people and to remove nationality, because in one incarnation you are Chinese, in another one Albanian, as a whole this is not a measure. The measure is whether you have Love and whether you are Truthful, right.

(continues in Part 2 – here)

Translated by Ruah Ezekiel

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Questions of the Children towards Eleazar pt. 13 –…

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Questions of the Children towards Eleazar pt.13 – 21st of September 2024

Matthey’s questions

-Shall we start with a guarding formula?

-Yes.

-Hello, friends. Today is the 13th part of our series: “Questions of the Children towards Eleazar”. Today, Matthey will be our guest with his questions. But before that, let us ask Eleazar: How would you comment – what times we are living in?

-Ah, the times we are living in are heavy, difficult, dark, and totally blessed. Because, the Master says, karma is being paid off and there is nothing better than that – the settling of debts, so that people are able to, in time… And these difficult times will give birth to True people – no philosophy or religion can help. Only sufferings reach deep, and sufferings prepare for Golgotha. At Golgotha, evil and sufferings die totally forever. One very Great Conception – at Golgotha. God has planned something extraordinary, which people do not know. Yes.

-Are these the times when a person becomes Truth or gets closer to it?

-If they do not become Truth in difficult times, they never will. In easy times, they lose themselves.

-And what is the approach in these difficult times, regardless of the situation?

-There is one approach: Deep Love for God. And that is the approach – it is known.

-Total Trust towards what is happening?

-Yes, yes, Complete Acceptance.

-Yes, and where is the place of Prayer in these difficult times?

-Prayer – it should not stop.

-Yes, good, thank you, and here are Matthey’s questions. The first question: Why is it that, when I sleep, I dream of the future?

-So, there are two moments here. Matthey – 10 years old, right?

-Yes, yes, he was 10 when he asked us the questions.

-We’re more or less peers. So, first, you dream of the future because you want a bright future and you need Lightness. Second, if you dream of the future, the spirits want you to miss the present and God, Who is here and now. These spirits – they send the future, but God is here. If you dream of God, the future will flee. Do not dream, but realize that God is here. God is always here, and when we realize Him, we attain Him – and we are saved from both the past and the future. God works in us for our awareness. This is why we seek Him, to realize Him. That is the first answer.

-Yes, and can it be said that some who dream, see something in the future – that this is some kind of special ability or gift, or is it deception?

-No, there are no gifts, there are no abilities, it simply depends on what the Spirit has decided to give. If the Spirit gives something Deep, It will reveal it, explain it, send it. If the Spirit has not decided, your gifts remain hanging.

-And how can one know in a dream if the Spirit has entered and Its Message?

-Well, the very… the very manner of expressing the Message shows what spirit has participated and whether it is True, or not.

-Okay, the second question from Matthey: When will the apocalypse come?

-So, the true end of the world will come when we become fully aware of God and live in Him. In God, there is no world. Knowing God is the end of the world, and that is, according to the Master, the liquidation of karma. The end of the world is when there is no time in you – and this means: when God is in you, when the Master is in you, Love is in you, Peace is in you, Truth is in you, and so on. The mind is time. For example, the Master knows the day and hour of the apocalypse, like He knew the deaths of many disciples and told two of them, though He regretted it. He says He knows the day and hour of the apocalypse but does not say it. There are reasons. He knew when His disciples would die, He told only two, and greatly regretted doing so. Because they did not meet death easily and burdened it, and He had to go and help them pass more easily through the astral and mental worlds. The end of the world happens in the Pure Consciousness, when the earthly thinking has gone. This is the second (question).

-Yes, so when the Master reveals a Truth, He takes on an enormous responsibility – since He found them in the Invisible world?

-Truth is always a great responsibility, at any time.

-Yes, the third question: When the end of the world comes, which country will we live in?

-So, first, the essential thing is that we always live in God and in ourselves, in the Master and in ourselves. The important thing is to become aware of God and the Master in ourselves. The end of the world comes when we liquidate ourselves. The Master says: A new continent will emerge from the bottom of the Pacific Ocean. It will be a continent of the Sixth Race. But a long time will pass until all of this is arranged. Europe awaits a heavy blow, says the Master, but the important thing is whether we live consciously in God and the Master. This is the third.

-Yes, and this New continent – will it have a New egregor watching over it?

-All the New way of thinking will enter there; it has a New egregor from the beginning, because it makes a total change. This is a Force, that purifies the old, so that they can enter with the New thinking.

-And these people who are now working on themselves, who follow the Master in an exceptionally sacred way, are they building thread by thread this egregor in some way?

-Yes, it is with small efforts, daily, great efforts are not required. He, God, knows that things are slow and with difficulties. Those who have entered this Way – it is done – everything is for them.

-Can we say that this egregor gives a distinct Lightness in these especially difficult times, for example one of…? 

-The egregor of Lightness has not stopped existing. The question is who… Even, the Taoists say that in every difficulty there is always Lightness; the question is whether you will see it, whether you seek it – it is there.

-Yes.

-But there are also such, there is such an option, that what is light can create very difficult things. Like the easy life, for example. Everything is in the person.

-Can we say that the Master, the Hand of the Master is characterized by this that you have Lightness in especially difficult times?

-Well, that is Him.

-That is Him in you?

-Yes.

-So, the fourth question: How did Atlantis fall?

-The drowned and submerged land of Atlantis never touches the Pure Spirits, who live consciously – as Gods without form. The Atlanteans called the flood “the hungry water”. According to them, the flood is a change of creation, whose goal is to make you aware – an aware Spirit. According to the Atlanteans, what you overcome becomes your personal power. Yes, Atlantis was lost, it sank, but the Spirit and Soul of Atlantis have not sunk, only its body. According to the Atlanteans, every difficult and heavy event builds within us pure power. Through the Flood, in Atlantis something Great happened – the Striking Way towards the Eagle happened, i.e. a Great Ascension in God. They use all crises for a leap, for… The Turanians say: “We will twist the word to create chaos and differences”. The Toltecs say: “We will acquire Impeccability and overcome chaos and differences, and the flood”. This is from “The Archives of Atlantis” – an unpublished book of mine, because it is not complete. According to the Toltecs, the flood ruins only those ones who have not sincerely sought the Eagle – God. And for the Toltecs, the Eagle was their Total Goal. The True Atlanteans perceived only the Eagle and God – no world at all. They perceived only the Truth, and that means death for the world, the end of the world – death for chaos, differences and creation. It is known that the perceptions of the world were afraid of the perceptions of the Pure Atlanteans. The Supreme Atlanteans say: “When you realize that you are Pure Spirit, you understand that no one can kill the Wind”. The Atlanteans also say: “Look at the butterfly – you can kill it in a moment, but its flight remains”. Why? Because the butterfly is part of the Wind and part of the Spirit. No one can touch its flight. The butterfly breathes in the Wind – according to them, another Name for the Spirit – in the Spirit, not in the world. For the Real Supreme Atlanteans, there is no fall and there never was. And the fallen ones fall without the fall. The Supreme Atlanteans say: “Attention sees the Invisible”. They say: “We are Invisible, even when we have been born”. And they also say: “In my Spirit there is no matter, and that is why I do not die”. That is awareness. The Supreme Atlanteans had Wisdom that penetrates deeply beyond wakefulness, because they have attained Supreme Impeccability. Otherwise, the fall is called “earthly thinking”. It is a special skill to rob yourself, to rob yourself. Sin is a dark breath in the person, a dark grave, but for the Pure Atlanteans – for them, this is Growth, and everything is Growth.

-And what is the place of the Black Sages in the Growth of the Supreme Atlanteans?

-They live for a special kind of other Sages, who must outgrow their light. Because if they stay there, they will become poor.

-And can we say that there are Dark Sages who have also not fallen? Are there such?

-Yes, yes, when we talked about the Aware Sages. Yes, they have been few, a concealed level. God is concelaed in them, He taught them secretly.

-But are they His Sons also?

-Well, concealed, like Lucifer is.

-I was very impressed by what you said, that they never allowed a lie. How can a Dark Sage live in darkness and not allow a lie?

-Just like one of the Light, who has cleansed themselves of the lie, only with this one it is more obvious – with the one of Light, and there it is hidden. They simply know what they are saying, because they know they are before God – because they are Aware.

-But does this come from their attitude towards Truth?

-Yes, yes, yes.

-And what…

-At some point, they have firmly chosen Truth, and God then has been teaching them secretly, because they have made the right choice, right – the same as when they have chosen God.

-And can we say they are deeper than the ones who are visible – in their visible attitude towards Truth?

-A part of them, they are deeper.

-Yes.

-About Shining, something…

-Yes, we have one extra question. Thank you for answering that too – so, it remained concealed. And Shining asks: Could I be a talent of God?

-She connects Atlanteans with talents, anyway.

-Can I read all of it?

-You can, but I’ll answer briefly, otherwise…

-Yes, if you want. Her mother, Maria, asked the question this way: Shining and I talked about talents and we understood that in Atlantis they started paying a lot of attention to talents – back then, they were not called talents. But after talents appeared, the Atlanteans disappeared, according to them. That is why every talent is a failure because it is a desire for doing. And then in Shining the question is born: Could I be a talent of God?

-Yes, so, I answer this little Soul. No, you cannot be a talent of God. You are a Daughter of God and a Soul of the Soul of God. Leave talents aside. Look at the essential – to be a Daughter of God. Then, if some talent comes, it will be in its place and it will not lead you into a fall. As long as you are a Daughter of God, that is the solution.

-Yes, so talents can rob Sonship and…?

-Talents and gifts have robbed many people because they have not attained the high degree of Purity, and from there, with that talent, other beings use it – they enter into it and…

-Yes, so is this a Way after Initiation, or overall, if it is a talent?

-A talent that does not work Totally for God, consciously, it is no longer in place – it is hidden destruction, although people rejoice with it;this talent, so and so, but everything is general talk.

-But this can happen after victory over temptations?

-Only then.

-Yes, yes, thank you, and for the next month, October, Shining will join us with new questions of hers. And one of them is: Eleazarko, tell us about the God of the Desert.

-Yes, this little Soul always asks such questions, that have their Depth. I will answer her.

-Is there a God of the Desert?

-Yes, yes, there is.

-And you had shared, that He is the strictest, or?

-It is something like Golgotha, and that is why Christ is there. And the Master says: There is one Being – the Cross, the Golgotha, which swallows everything. Just like it swallowed Christ. The Master calls it a Very Mighty Being – Golgotha. But to transform It – with Christ.

-Is this Being different from God?

-Yes, a different Being. Yes, again God is behind it.

-God is behind it again?

-Yes.

-Okay, thank you, and Eleazar’s answer to this and other questions – next month, in our next conversation. We thank everyone for their time and attention.

-Yes.

-Thank you very much.

Translated by Ruah Ezekiel