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Eleazar Harash – Meeting between friends in the room…
Eleazar Harash – Meeting between friends in the room of the Master, Varna, 5.9.2024 – Part 1
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Eleazar Harash: All are Souls, there is not one mind – very nice! This is it, this is the nice thing, they have started to give up on the mind – this is the best thing. Later I will read to you something here, from the Master, a little from one notebook, but if someone wants to say something, because I like to listen. Sometimes I want to listen, and in Quiet, right, but it does not work, more than 40 years, always having to talk. If you have some questions, I will try to say something?
Question: When a state appears, of total stillness, Speechlessness, Peace, and concentration into the Nothingness, even the praying Spirit stops to flow in the person, it is simply one Quietness and detachment, does this contradict the formulas, doing the formulas?
EH: So, it does not stop, because Aum is a Vatan Word, by the way, it has flowed out from the Absolute, to flow in all the worlds, until they attain the Absolute in deeper and deeper degrees of Oneness. So, because in time, our end aim is not Christ, nor God – it is the Absolute. The Supreme Nothingness, and even there, it flows, but very finely – AUM, the Vatan Aum, there is no stopping. It is something like a constant development, a constant Oneness at different degrees, like initiations have many degrees. There are even Sages who are not initiated, it is odd, but because they help, they have pure intentions, and as a loan something is given to them, so that they can see in such a way, partially. So, it flows, it does not contradict. In fact, there are never contradictions for anything – contradictions are in the mind. If you enter into the Spirit… The mind likes contradictions – warm, cold, good, evil, or the big overeating, severely, mercilessly. I know one sister, when I ask her, she had just eaten, I said: What will you do when you go home? –I will eat again! – Right, and the big starving, the pursuing of records. Balance, says the Master, if you eat in the right way, why do you even need to fast, what for? But to grasp the measure, it means to grasp God within yourself. You must train for a few months, to grasp the sweetest bite, according to the Master. Training is necessary to grasp it, and to stop at the sweet bite, if you have made attempts – a surging energy. If you overeat with one bite, says the Master: Poison. There is no contradiction and there never was, but when you enter the mind, you can make even the smallest problem into something big, a complication, and then even bigger, and from the fly – an elephant, then three elephants, then maybe three elephants and a shark, because the mind plays, it spins people around with insinuations. The insinuation is a big force. If we have God and the Master within us, nothing is able to insinuate, even the powers of light cannot insinuate themselves to us – God and the Master are a supreme measure. Yes.
Question: Are people able to create evil, or do they just attract it with their way of influencing, with their actions, with the lie, for example, and increase it? Are they truly able to create evil in themselves, or do they just attract it?
EH: So, this, if you ask me there, in front of all of them – I will not say it, but I will say it here. So, there is only One acting one, only One God, and Osho very bravely says it in one place: He is the only killer – there is no other. Everything is implementers and we see the evil, but we do not see that He, killing this person, is saving them from even heavier karma, right. Like recently the father of one sister drowned, he was an alcoholic and if he lives a long time, such longevity – very treacherous, because then he would need to be born entirely deformed, and this is the gesture towards him from above, and if the kill is not implemented, a bigger evil truly awaits the person. There is no other acting one, right, of course, God with His instruments. There are occasions when God sends the devils with the Satanic forces – they kill. Another time in the bible, there are cases – He sends angels – they kill. When God orders them to, two angels wipe out an army, as far as I remember it was 160 000 or 180 000 people, the occurrence, because Purity is a big force and power, but either way, the Only One acting One is Him, same as with an accident – your child dies. You do not know what is good and evil, you may imagine, and if it lives long, you may even regret why it was born, if in time you become aware, but God knows, and when we accept Deeply, and this is the only way. Only the Deeply Humble ones accept everything Deeply and they make a leap in development, and they can understand the right lesson, why it happened, it can be given to them in the right way, so they enter into Wisdom, not the human wisdom, but the Divine Wisdom, but this is not for everyone, you do understand, right? Because it will disturb, they are disturbed anyway, and for years I have been disturbing anyway and I am trying some things, to be a bit more in an intimate setting, because they will make God out to be a murderer and this means karma that is three times heavier. Because you do not see, that not only does He do good to you, you cannot see… But besides this, if there were no Satan, they would blame God for every cruelty, and Satan is a sacrificed Cherub, who through evil is waking people up from ignorance and they can understand that evil is their own, and he only adds to it. He does not do it himself, the person has become, the person themselves have become a devil, but they want to present that the Devil is to blame, but the trick does not work, because the Divine Eye sees everything in such a way – only One acting One – there is no second! If there were a second one, it would mean that he is stronger than God and he is a Ruler. If Satan had power and these killers, these ones, at the moment, nothing would be left of Bulgaria and of the world if they ruled. But they are locked and they implement – precisely, what God says. The angels – precisely, what God says. The Archangels – precisely, what God says. All murderers and dark forces – precisely, what God says, as far as it is allowed, right, and the Only One – He compels what and how to happen, how precisely to calculate the murder and the accident – to the very instant – that is it.
Question: So when we were Primordially immaculate, we have allowed something in us, something impure?
EH: We have made many wrong choices and now we speak of choices but we are limited by that, which we have done and we want, we imagine, but here, this sister from Finland with whom I had a meeting here, right, three people torment her in Finland, Bulgarians, and she said, I prepared everything, the weapon, the poison, friends, but something from the interviews, something from the Master appeared to me – she makes a change of her character – this is a change of fate. The character is the fate, this is thousands of years of shaped character and this is your fate. If you change it a little bit – you have made a big change. She is refusing, and so they will not be chasing each other in other incarnations to kill each other, and so. A terrorist – a truck loaded with explosives, at the last moment he decides not to blow it up – this is a change of the course. His consciousness, united with God’s consciousness, and Awareness – mutual. God wants mutuality, not just the person… The person can make a lot of efforts and for a long time God may not come, there is a reason, but then, when God does come, this mutual work happens, which is very pure.
Question: So this is actually the change of the intention and the choice within us?
EH: Moses also has one murder, and if it was not for this murder, he would not have been able to grow and to make a leap, and because the State is unable to punish him – he is deeper than the State, because he has God within Himself – he goes to the Desert, he hides, he does a Deep Repentance, he prays for the murdered one to be reborn, he is born as his child, Moses marries this woman Sephora, which uncoincidentally means ‘’Justice’’, and he repays everything and he grows, and the murdered one grows. We do not see this, we see the murder and we see our poor criticism, because we cannot understand, because we must attain an absolute non-judgement – a very difficult thing. Absolute Humility! Then we will understand the Deep Divine Conception and we will come to love it, and we will see that everything He does is Love, with no exception. It does not matter if it is murders, if it is an accident, if it is war. I heard the Pope speaking about the war in Ukraine – it must stop, it must… Who are you? You have no notion! He speaks rightly, but not truthfully, and he misleads people. But God acts, because He has a record – who must be killed, who must be let pass the border – and the angels enter into the military people – There, go, leave… whoever must be wounded… There is a Russian guy who has been in many wars, numerous times bombs fall around his feet – not a scratch! God does not allow – the end! Fidel Castro, as far as I have heard – over 700 assassination attempts, he keeps on living as if… De Gaulle – over 30 – where God is – the end. Yes. There is no other acting one! And in our life everything that is happening, we have sown it – He wanted it, we wanted it, He wanted it… And in the end, when we start, says the Master, to implement His will – He begins to implement our will. And that is when the most beautiful happens. If you are arranging your life, in time you will regret. If you give it so that God arranges it gradually, in time you will be amazed. In His Conception there is something Primordial. So, here I can say it with a pure consciousness, I wondered whether to say this, but what the Master has given me is deeper than reality and actuality. This is such a Fearsome Great Completeness, with which I pity the whole history of the world from the beginning till the end. I really pity it because this Completeness and Wholeness, it is before the history of the world. I can explain it Deeply, but I do not want to, and such gratitude towards the Master, that whatever happens to me – I will do anything for Him, because there is no one to stop me! Everything is for Him, life and death both pale in comparison, but I cannot describe it, because it is… and you will all attain it, because we are Primordially Whole! Right, but along the way something was lost.
Question: A thought comes to me now, that in fact, the Gift and one big Blessing in this world that we have is the freedom of choice through which we are able to purify ourselves and choose Him.
EH: Yes, yes. This is why freedom was given to you and Thoth says it: To become a God. Not to become a person. Freedom, on the one hand, will make some people devils and demons – they choose it. Others will become Gods and Deities, and there will be all kinds of beasts, and Gods, and in time, this choice, it sows you, it sows. And there are beings like in the Garden of Eden – who have never fallen. They had intimate relations, Divine contact, but they never fell into knowledge – Love remained. They remain Sublimely Perfect, others are Sublimely Perfect without contact, others are Sublimely Perfect with contact, because the matter is on the inside.
Question: How should we understand the words of the Master that with our actions, with our thoughts, we are able to alter destiny?
EH: First, thoughts are living beings, just like words. And one Ancient word, one Aum, the Vatan Aum, it can… it is deeper than the world and if you devote yourself to it, like there are yogis who do 5000, 10 000, 50 000 formulas (a day), they erase the world in all regards, there are Sufi who do, they reach up to 200 000 formulas a day – Dhikr. They are not in this world at all, nor in the other one, nor in the Universe – they are in God! The implementation of the Biblical law: We live and we move in God. Also if we choose a thought by the Master, this notebook here, it is all thoughts by the Master, I will read some to you. So He says: The strong thought is a Fire which melts everything – this is especially important against the heavy karma, right. He says: The thought that has been sent, always creates. And if it is completely focused – this is God that has been sent. And this is why exercises in concentration are important, when the heavy moments and hours come, to collect yourself. Not to be dispersed by the forces and not to know where you are walking and what you are doing, but to become focused, right. He says: All thoughts are reinforced with repetition. All possibilities are concealed in the thought. In order for every thought to act, it must be intensive. This is such a notebook by the Master, it is not formulas, it is made only of such Golden Thoughts by Him, such Sacred and Deep ones, and I read them sometimes, back in the day even before the battles with National Security, before I entered into the formulas. This is a tuning of Fire and wherever you open it, right… Here: Think that God is close to you, and He really will be close! The matter is, Mohammad says as well: Even if you do not believe, He is still next to you. Even if you do not think it, He is still next to you, but the matter is to realise it, that He is everywhere! – As long as Love is with you, you are safe. – There is not one empty thought. This is such a notebook that has been made, right, all of it, and I have a few such ones with Ancient Words, all kinds, right. Love creates one Super-Natural Presence. With the smallest negative thought – Love disappears. Here is where it is important – control. You must train this and in heavy moments not to succumb to the insinuation.
I remember one guy from National Security said: We’ll put you in jail, so and so – Absolutely no giving in, because he is not a measure! God is the measure and the Master, I have devoted my life to Him and a few times I had to die, and only when you die for the Master, it is real, both to really die, and in a spiritual sense and in a literal sense. Then you can understand Him. So, with paneurhythmy and with angel’s soup – tragedy, right. Play at it, love the Master, but you must love Him as a matter of life and death. Similarly, the same applies to the Truth – you cannot love the Truth 99% – no, it will not accept you! The Truth, God and the Master want us whole! Either you are devoted, or you are not devoted – there is no middle ground, the middle falls away. Yes. They want us totally! The Truth itself is composed in such a way, and Love itself, that what are the people of Truth set apart by? Well, in them, there is something Totally devoted. Not up to some point, not faith and faithlessness – a Total Trust – there is no faith, there is no faithlessness, they have True Love. What does that mean? They do not live in this love, in which there is love and hate – the two poles, both of them, they are both false, but temporarily they are necessary for something, to outgrow it. But there is Love which is without love and without hate – Pure Love. That is the Master and this is why He is Fiercely Important, Exceptionally, and He will enter more and more into the world, and I am reading recently some of His memories, exceptional. One sister was in a car accident and Christ appears to her and says: The time has come for us to take you into the invisible world. And the Master says: No, she has lessons to learn – and He prolongs her life. He decides! And there are many such things as a whole. Nikolay Doynov – he has been to visit my home, I have taken him to the woods – the astrologer of the Brotherhood back in the day. He is the reincarnated Napoleon Bonaparte – the Antichrist – the Master says this. He said… Around the Master there are many reincarnated disciples – Clement of Ohrid, Patriarch Euthymius, bishops, Disciples of Christ – they were in the School (of the Master). Things are brought forward and each one continues their lessons. In one moment even Stoyan Mihaylovski and Ivan Vazov started writing against the Master. The Church instigated Mihaylovski, because he had a fire quill, to write something against the Master. He started writing, and they paid him something like 300 lev, or along those lines, anyway, I do not remember. And later he was invited, like that, for the two of them to go to a lecture, and when they went, he… He said: This is Truthful! It cannot be written (against)! – He has come conscience, this person, and so… yes. So, with the Master, whoever has met Him, and when the Master has allowed – you see what the matter is about, because, in order to understand Him, you need permission, to glimpse Him.
Here: Love towards God, this is the Greatest Truth in life. Whatever Love, Wisdom and Truth advise you – do it. And this advice from the mind… – Who loves you? – the Master gives a measure: The one, who brings Purity and Life into you. – So simply speaks the Master, and so clearly, that simply… You cannot argue, no, you must go against yourself or you must be unwell so that you are unable to understand. – Culture begins with the Purity of feelings. Our feelings must be Pure. A person who plays an important role in your life – they have been sent by God. The matter is, when you have been given a person to love, to touch the measure in such a way, to want the Master to reveal it to you, to love them like God and the Master wants you to, and not like you want to. Not your desires, and then a kind of Love will appear and the exchange will be from Blissfulness and Peace upwards, not some human tragedies and comedies and so on.
Question: If God were next to the Master, what would God do?
EH: God and the Master – they are One. Whatever God does, the Master does as well, and whatever the Master does – God does. There is no… so, the Master says: In every instant I am implementing the Divine Will! A fearsome statement, which many people cannot speak, because in every instant… And the instant moves with fearsome speed. But the Master is one of those who have overtaken the instant, because He is inside God. God is… God governs the events, they are together, and this is why the Master has overtaken the events.
Question: From the book of Formulas: ‘‘I and my Father are one’’. But I feel this formula like an enormous responsibility and I do not say it. What must my attitude be towards it, when do I have the right to say it? Do I even have a right at all?
EH: You have the right, because it will teach you how to be One with Him, and this is a being which wants to divert you, not to say it – it has entered inside your mind. Because when you repeat it, God will create this Oneness, He will… you want it, thoughts are magnets. You create it and in time this being, which is hindering you, because many people have such… Back in the day I inspired one boy with the prayers, he said: I feel like an angel, it is pleasant. But his girlfriend appeared and said: What do you need those prayers for? Millions of people all over the world succeed without prayers. – Logical, and he was caught, he gave up, and both of them ended up more or less for the psychiatric ward. Anyway, it does not matter, then he understood them again I think, or something happened… But I want to tell you that there is… So, Dhikr – the devil fears constant prayers the most. In the moment when you enter into constant prayers – you accumulate God and with this prayer… You accumulate God, there is no way that you could underestimate it or not want it, or think something. Just say it more and more, God will be accumulated in you, and when the hour of your karma comes, He will let loose, the Word will become a Force – the accumulated Word. And this is why in some places big miracles happen, because there is accumulated Word, accumulated energy. Miracles are accumulated Word of God, and in the instance you could be misled and in time for it to be too late, but if you have understood me now… yes.
Question: And let me ask something about Dhikr, does the environment matter, because sometimes, for example if you are among many people and you are in a heavier environment, does this somehow affect the environment and the person themselves?
EH: If you succumb to influences, but it is a mistake, because Sufis, wherever they are – among people or without people, they are in their Heart, in their Heart is God. They are not with people, they are not in the world, they are with themselves and with God. So, you can… company is of no matter at all. So, the Master says, there is… If you are healthy and with healthy thinking, you can enter among lepers, among a plague, and not be infected, because you are not, you do not accept – you only accept God. God cannot be infected, He cannot be… So, this way you may be misled by people, and if they become your measure, then you do not value God enough and you will miss God, do you understand?
Question: My thoughts are, because it has made an impression on me, really, in public transport when I’ve been, when I’ve travelled on the bus, in some way this affects people, indirectly, in my opinion, maybe I am imagining it…
EH: No, in some it does enter, in the finer Souls, or the ones who are in a more passive state. The active ones – the mind does not allow them to accept. But the passive state, it is very nice, this is why meditation is nice, the Quiet is nice, Speechlessness, because the mind is not there. The mind cannot enter – where the beast and the monster is – the mind not mastered, which is Satan, says the Master. He cannot enter where there is True Love, where there is Tranquility, where there is Peace. And this is why the Master says: Only Tranquility can teach you to think Deeply. When you make important decisions, you need Tranquility or Peace. Peace is even deeper and this is the Kingdom, this is such a science, natural science for the person, for the Soul, but the mind does not have Peace, it lives on worries. It wants you to worry, even if there are no reasons, but some come up with imaginary reasons, they create conditions, and you, even if there are reasons, or there are not, you must not worry, because worrying does not solve anything – it increases the parasites.
Question: Can I, another question – of Peace? In principle, the Trinity of Oneness: Spirit, Soul and Body, could it regard also as the Quiet, Common Peace and Peace?
EH: So, they are Common Peace, Tranquility and Peace – they are three.
Question: The Quiet is left in this case?
EH: It is in another Trinity.
Question: It is in the higher level, in which…
EH: It is in a very high level, even though Peace is a high level too. So, the other level is Silence, Speechlessness and Quiet – the most Supreme Quiet, which is a Secret Name of God, by the way… So, Common Peace – this is the mind, to master your Common Peace. In the world, people of common peace always sign peace treaties, but they cannot master it, because it is not enough, right. Tranquillity is from the Soul, Peace is from the Spirit, there is the Limit, and from Peace onwards, there is the True Humility already, there the Nothingness is found, it is one step away. Humility and Peace are one step away from Nothingness, and in Nothingness, there cannot enter… So, where does the True disciple live? So, the True Disciple lives in the Mystery of the Abyss, and of the Boundlessness, not in the world, not in paneurhythmy, not in God, not in the Teaching of the Master – they live in the Master! In this biography that we are now making, of the Master – we are making two biographies. There I say that the Boundlessness has an end – the Master has no end. The Master belongs to the Mystery – He is Mystery! He is something Exceptional! So, you must walk from Silence towards Tranquillity, right, and from Tranquillity towards Peace. And from… I wanted to say, from Common Peace towards Tranquillity, and from Tranquillity towards Peace, and from Silence towards Speechlessness, because in Silence you can… there is no hindrance for the person to speak nonsense – silence is not gold. The Master says: Fish are silent too, but they are not Sages. So, from Silence towards Speechlessness and from Speechlessness towards the utmost Depths, towards the Depths of the Quiet, there are degrees there of the Quiet. And there the connections to the Elders, to God and to the Master happen. When you become Nothingness, you are already a natural Portal of God. God is able to live only in the Nothingness. If you have a little ego, one drop, a little mind – so that you are not Whole – then God cannot enter so that you work together and you are already an obstacle. This is why we must become a Deep Humility, Wholeness, Completeness, Nothingness, to disappear – then He can be born and help us, and in this way are born… I remember, back in the day, Lili Dimkova asked me: How do you do these lectures and these books on the Elders? Well, I said, I do the lectures with the Nothingness in me and with the something, and the Elders – only with the Nothingness, right. I cannot explain it either, but so many books came out, more or less 300, and it is not my plan, nor… Simply God wants it, because of the Souls. And it is worth it because of the Souls, right, I want nothing to do with people’s minds, even if they are somewhat mastered… The Souls, the Souls are the precious stones.
Question: And where is the mind overcome in these degrees that you mentioned, or does it gradually dissolve and disappear?
EH: So, the more Dhikr you do, this is the rail track of God. Dhikr is… Dhikr in us is done by God through other beings and through Himself. And in the beginning it starts pleasantly, mentally, then it starts with heart, and then Soul is instilled, then God enters into it and in the end this Dhikr, the numerous Dhikr engulfs the mind, engulfs creation, engulfs death, engulfs the world, and this is the biggest Gift given. Especially, there are Sufi, I told you, who pray… they reach up to 200 000 prayers a day. This is such devotion, they have simply… He has disappeared and even if he is before you, you think he is looking at you, for example, but he will not be looking at you at all, he is doing (Dhikr), he is used to training in all conditions. I used to have many people come to me before, I imposed patience on myself, to tolerate them, but some speak so many excessive things, and very excessive… and I am looking at him and doing my prayers, he thinks that I am listening to him, he is relieved, I am relieved too – kingdom.
Question: What is the egregor of the Master distinguished by, when you enter into it, some telling…
EH: The Master has a few egregors, one is of music and paneurhythmy, it is of the small egregors, they are the lower degree. The Teaching of the Master must be understood, the Master Himself – the Core. And the only thing that can know Him, this is Total Love. There is no, 99% love – you perish, right. And this Love, which sacrifices for Him and He already says: Yes, this one is Mine! And He accepts your sacrifice, because many people can be purified in the Way of the Master, to enter Deeply into the Teaching – it is not enough. They may enter Deeply, because the Master says it: I can express my Teaching with one word – Purity. And from 100 pure ones, the Master may only choose a few, because there are degrees of purity. There is Spiritual, there is Sacred, there is Divine Purity, and there is Absolute Purity. When you enter into the Absolute Purity – the Master has been captured, He has no choice. God is simply captured, too. Because the Master says in one place: I can give up on some disciples for 10 000 years – which means He has done it. The ones who present the Teaching, but internally… When you have Love, Wisdom and Truth – you have captured the Master with the lasso – I can guarantee that He cannot move. So, it is One, there is the Nothingness, there is Love, there is Peace, there is Completeness and simply mutual serving, right, and it has always been this way, and in this network can enter all the ones who serve God. Angels, Archangels, Melchizedek, Elders, Masters, Cherubs, because all Aware ones serve God and they become One Whole, and that is why connections are easy.
Question: Because we are speaking of the Master, at what point can the person allow themselves Awareness and purification – thoughts, actions etc, to allow themselves to totally turn to Him? For generally, assistance, to enter into one Way with Him, to realise that He is helping them, even though I have realised at a few stages already that He is helping me, but I do not dare yet to turn to Him so directly, because I know that if I am not… In my thoughts, feelings, actions, I have not mastered them to such a degree yet. I am still wandering between the two spheres and…
EH: So, if you are waiting to purify your thoughts, your incarnation may pass, there are such options too. Do not think that you are unworthy, get rid of this thought – there are no unworthy Souls for God and the Master, as they are. So, there was one (sister), they chased her out from the Brotherhood, and another elderly sister was beaten up by the leadership (of the Brotherhood) because she ‘’offended the Master’’. The Master is such height, that no one can offend the Master, it is like offending the Sun, and they kicked her there, let me not tell you, a friend helped. But another sister was chased out, and she used to come to me, back in the day when I presented lectures in Sofia, she is poor, and one time, the poor thing, took some wilted flowers from a waste bin and some soup, that were thrown away – a gift! And she filled up my Soul, because she wants to give something, she is poor, she has nothing to give, but… and since then I liked her Soul, anyway, it does not matter. So: Master, teach me how to attain the Absolute connection to You. – Do not think about when it will happen – it is none of your business. The Master gradually, He has already created it up to a point. In time He will refine it and you will know. I have had cases when precisely the Master speaks to you, in another similar case – precisely God, it is not the Master. In another case – a Supreme Being, right, and these differences are given with the Deep Love towards the Master. The Prophet Isaiah has visions in which he has mixed up things in the vision and there is… Dyonysius the Areopagite who saw on a Deeper level, in one place, corrects Isaiah’s, and Dionysius is one of the biggest prophets. He says, in this case, he has not seen a Seraph, but an angel – the difference is big.
There are levels, and in the Way of Love, Wisdom and Truth, very fine and Deep subtleties are attained, but mostly in the way of Love. Love gives something very special, but in order to be Love, in Deep Love with someone – this is the Presence of God. Whoever thinks that without God… they may dream of True Love – there is no such thing. God and the Master are there, it is Primordial Pure Intentions. Relations from Soul to Soul and upwards – the mind is not there. And when embracing, and with any intimacy, Sacred intimacy, the mind and the world are gone, the exchange is… Supreme energies are exchanged for the Higher degree of development, in the name of the development and of the Master, on Deep levels. So that they can, in time, penetrate into the Deep spheres of Akasha, and not to imagine and speak… So, Love – two Wellsprings come together in order to reinforce each other, not to hinder each other. If two mental people come together – it is not to be spoken about, right. Sometimes, on their own, people reign on their own, others, on their own, live in… I read a joke recently, a woman said: It is something fierce at home, conflicts, quarrels, moaning, battles. They asked her: Well, wait, how many people are there? – I am alone – she said. – She… they are inside, the spirits – a school, she is going through it. And I have said this joke, but I will say it again to you. Because it shows love from another point of view, in Bulgaria or in the world: Two people met online and they met at a pub to get to know each other more. They look at each other, both of them – really ugly, huge ugliness face to face, and the woman said: Well, we’ll drink until we like each other. He said: I couldn’t drink that much! – there are such… there are some people, I know such, who must come up with a new joke every day, this is how they live. And I know here one Turkish writer, this is his daily routine, for years now. He said: Keep your head up, doesn’t matter that it’s empty! – beauty, these are such… Some, it comes to them, we are speaking of Pure laughter, which raises the energy, like the Master upholds it, and others, because – Pure energy, without profanity, without…
Question: What would happen if a lie were spoken in the Ancient language?
EH: Well, whatever language it may be, the lie is a lie and the Master calls it a double sin – there is no forgiveness. I.e. you could say later, like the Master says: God, forgive me, I erred before the Great Truth – but it is already written down, spoken. At the moment when it is spoken, the chemical makeup of the blood is already disrupted, in time problems await you and in time mental illnesses and you will be doing things you do not want to do. Like Apostle Paul said… but in time, when Christ enters into him, this might be an exit point, to renounce the lie totally. You could speak it, in order to be smitten and to choose, like that occurrence in the Bible – 38 years, do you recall? I will say it for… So, 38 years a leper, he knows, when Christ comes and says: Rise, take up thy bed, and walk! – He rises, he is restored to health, right. Anyway, and this 38 year old is cited by the churches, but they do not know who he is at all, and why. The Master – Deep, All-penetrating in all the worlds, and in this person, He has even said his name: Valtasar Belamo – a prominent adept. For one conscious lie – 38 years! So, when initiates lie – it is a fearsome thing! And he, after this lie, in my opinion, I do not think he would ever again, after he was cured… He knows who Christ is, Who is coming, Who raises him, and from this lie, maybe for thousands and millions of years he will be cured, right.
Question: I am asking from the point of view of this, that in this language… we must prepare to remove the lie, so that we do not make the mistake on the higher level.
EH: You must train a lot and be careful, there are unaware lies, in time those must disappear as well. It has happened to me, unawarely. The aware lie is already very dangerous – it leads to incurable illnesses. Not that there are incurable illnesses, but they will crush you for a long time, extremely heavy illnesses, so that they teach you, right. But they asked me once: Do you have this book? – I had 14 warehouses, around 180 000 books, I do not remember in which warehouse, and I said: I do not have it. I go to one of the warehouses and there it is! And so I do not know already whether I have a book or not, and next time I speak – immediately a correction, because it is very… This is a thrill, I am an antiquarian, with the books, I am used to it, all kinds of books, exceptional books, we picked the Wisdom of the world – both in English, and in German, and in Russian, anyway, and it is all because the Master allowed me, after numerous practices I did back in the day, to enter into the other Teachings. And when you originate from the Master – you enter in the right way. Dao, Zen, Sufi, whatever you can think of, Hasidism, Persian, Indian religion – and they are all One Whole, there is not a drop of differentiation, right, we are speaking when Love unites people, and Purity. I am not speaking of religions, they cannot do such a thing, nor sciences, nor politicians, right. This is, Love is able to unite people and to remove nationality, because in one incarnation you are Chinese, in another one Albanian, as a whole this is not a measure. The measure is whether you have Love and whether you are Truthful, right.
Translated by Ruah Ezekiel
