
Visiting Eleazar. Meeting between friends 8.3.2025, pt. 1
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Visiting Eleazar. Meeting between friends 08 03 2025
-If it is not working, then it will be a meeting.
-It works, it works. Yes. Well, let us do a formula before that. You say which one.
-Well, any one – from the heart of each one.
-Shall we do a formula for the event to go in the best way and for the Master to be present?
-We can, yes.
-What are you going to talk to us about tomorrow?
-Many rules about the importance of formulas. And whoever is diligent, how God gives them corresponding formulas – it means that He Himself is working for the person, and He sends Supreme Beings, and the person’s very Soul. And it is all interconnected, and how important (formulas) are, for people to get used to. Even, if I have to, I will share how I recently reached a record – 52,000 formulas in one day. When it is not… I will not say it to brag, but how important it is sometimes, in heavy times, instead of pondering, thinking about the problem – to think a lot about God, to give Him a lot of energy – and with this help, He does whatever He does, and… Without expecting, simply – you trust God, you do what you must, and you do not care about the rest – which means that He always does the best.
-When you do the formulas, you take breaks, you bring in variety, you do not do them non-stop.
-Yes, I always work, for years, in this way, strategically, so that nothing gets tiresome. A few formulas, Spiritual thinking, meditation, Divine thinking, Spiritual books, sometimes for relaxation – crime novels, some, which are more powerful, so, sometimes newspapers a bit, sometimes TV a bit. Sometimes I do interviews, I do books – and all this bit by bit, and you never get bored of anything. It is simply varied this way and pleasant. Because if it is only formulas, only books – back in the day there were instances of 10-12-15 hours like that – books, formulas, books, formulas, but it is better to change activities, it is lighter that way.
-Yes.
-Mhm.
-But you can go beyond 100,000 formulas on an entire day off. Some may ask how – it is the Spirit that gives things, God. The methods are in God – if it must be given to you, it will be given to you. When it is important, He gives it.
-In fact, this is – certain formulas, you do them many times?
-Yes, there are different formulas, some are done with only one utterance, others 10 times, 100 times, 1000 times.
-Mhm.
-And when God gives you a lot of energy to do these formulas, it means that He is with you, because some may force themselves. I had a case of one person, well, I liked this one guy, I wanted to do formulas for him because he was in surgery – my hand stopped. After… He soon died – his first surgery was successful, the second – unsuccessful. He passed and then I found out, both from his wife and from others, and he admitted it himself, before that, right… That he did not have the idea, no development, no idea about God. And where there is no idea of God…
-Ah, in this line of thought, there is something like this, Sufis say that… What separates you from God – ignorance, impatience and acting of your own will – could you complete this statement, like this with…
-The greatest is ignorance, because… It is not bad to be ignorant, but when you do not want to learn – I consider that to be great ignorance already. That is the big trap. And impatience is something that ruins… It can ruin many good things, both from past lives and from this life. Something built, built – suddenly one case of impatience and you ruin it with something silly, with wilfulness, right? Wilfulness, it is always a punishment, and… This is disobedience that you pay for, you always pay for it. And I personally think that… If a person lives very reasonably and a very good life, they will still be punished, because that must be according to God. If your reasonableness does not derive from God, if your good is not approved by God, you do as much good as you want. I met such people, right… So, no, this good is not… No, it is not blessed.
-Yes, it is not Divine.
-Yes, mhm.
-And what happens to the Soul if God abandons it? When Souls have no choice anymore?
-To such Souls God gives a difficulty, which difficulty defeats them. As a principle, God calculates the difficulties of all reasonable ones, but to someone He gives a difficulty that breaks them, to teach them, because of great hardness, roughness, lack of humility, disobedience. Then the person can no longer deal with the hardship and misfortune, and they must learn their lesson in the other world. And yet He continues to love them, because He does not abandon anyone entirely. The matter is that the person does abandon.
-He has always been here.
-He is always here and always present, but the person abandons God and then they may think that it is the opposite. Besides, the Supreme Soul, it… It is always in God, it cannot be abandoned, but you know, I used to say back in the day: the person created a second soul, the inferiour soul, and it is actually the ego.
-Yes.
-It is the big… There is no way that God can be in unity with the ego. Osho very nicely says: The ego – this is the Devil in the person and they do not need another devil. Another one may add to it, but this… This is enough, it is enough.
-I.e. this is again, in a way, the Will of… God’s Will for our growth, because He wants us to grow. Whether it will be in this world or in the next – we are again growing.
-He always wants development, yes. But with some people it is slowed down because they do not… do not… they do not have relations with God, they do not want them. For some reason they deny or something… Then it becomes slow and God will again think up another plan for this Soul, He will give them a chance again, they can still miss, until at some point, they have no other way.
-Yes.
-For who is able to escape from God?
-There is no such one.
-There is no such one. Satan, too, cannot escape from God, because how can he be an enemy, when everything is in God.
-Yes, everything.
-There is no way for him to separate on his own, there is no way he has planned it, there is no way he knows what he is doing. The Master says: Sometimes the Devil devises some evil in the person. – The Master says: It is not him conceiving it – God is behind. He himself does not know what he thinks – he thinks that he will do some evil with such intentions, while God will bring good out of it – completely different intentions. And in the end, what happens is what God wants, and Satan has no way of knowing God’s moves, and… Even sometimes, when he tempts, he does not know. God knows how to tempt, and if you seek Oneness, He will teach you and you will rip strength out from temptations. This, this is for Sages and Initiates, while with the others – temptations rob them. But when you always want Oneness with God, He will teach you everything, there is simply… He even gave such a formula recently, I do not know if I have included it (for) tomorrow: “God, teach me to pray in a Sublime way” – so that in one moment… And again, He must want to become Total Power, in this way… One, recently, one such formula, a very nice one: “May God be Resurrected in our home.” – simple, because if He is not Resurrected and we do not get along… and this that the Master says, too: Let us live in Love and agreement – it does not happen only from past good karma. You will be fine until a certain time, when the karma runs out and the old starts again. And that is why the wellspring must be filled again, for it to become even better in the next reincarnation, and the next one even more… In this way, gradually.
-Can you tell me something about, about the parasites and especially the Concealed God behind the parasites Who wants, when meeting tyrants, for us to overcome these tyrants, in order to become more resilient?
-Well, bad thoughts in the deep sense, which are parasites, they appear like that – they are not sent by the Devil. God is behind and checks who is faithful to Him and how much, what they choose – if He sends you a bad thought and you choose God, which is God’s aim, God reinforces Himself. But when you choose the bad thought, then the problem is in you, not in God, not in someone, not in the Devil – you may make the Devil out to be… There is no such thing. There is something in you, and that is why the Master says: The disciple is not responsible until they have the bad thought. If they do, then the Devil goes after them. But if they have decided – if such a person has decided, they will get into trouble, right, but they will learn lessons – it is again God’s Love, He is always behind, He will always torment the person. And “Every bad thought and crooked word” – says the Master, – “if you nurture it and accept it, it will chase you, it will follow you”, – says the Master – “for centuries and thousands of years, it will find you, and it will hinder your development.” -We simply have no right, from any point of view. You train this, you train it and it happens. At one point it becomes easy – whoever says “difficult” – it is not difficult.
-I.e. this growth is this so-called Immutability.

-Yes.
-Which… what does Immutability mean to God and to the Master?
-Well, this is this Permanence, which clings to God under all conditions, regardless of whether something good or bad is happening. Because even the bad in this case is good when you are in Oneness with God, because you pay off karma. But something good can also happen, but it does not matter much to the one who loves God. They do not necessarily want good things to happen to them, because those good things often make you slack and…
-Mhm.
-Even, “Where are…” – The Master says – “Where is the New?” – and says, answers: “In contradictions.” And if you can encompass them, embrace them, in a way, that is where the leap is made. Two people who love each other must have many opposite things, to be able to grow. If both of them are quiet, accepting, it does not work in this world. In the Supreme Worlds it is possible, but here there must be… One of them must challenge, dig, in such a way, so that both of them can make a leap. And if they truly love each other, they forgive each other. The Master says: “If you deeply observe the person and see them in the right way, the mistakes, which they… which they make – if you see the reasons deeply” – He says – “you will never judge the person”. You can never judge the person, because in their place, you would have made the same mistakes. Simply… That is the right view – Absolute non-judgment. And then gradually you begin to understand, you go from half-truth to the Whole Truth. If you are really done judging. The slightest judgement – you disapprove of something, God’s Conception – because everything is He and He sets it in motion… You disapprove of something somewhere, because you do not see and that actually becomes your problem – it is not God’s problem, it is not the Devil’s problem.
-What is God’s Will when we are very strongly challenged, deeply, exceptionally, extraordinarily challenged. What is God’s Will?
-Well, in this case it is to know yourself deeply and to master yourself. And when you learn to master yourself in such situations, the next One, Who will master you, is God. And He has already given you mind, heart, will, Soul, everything – it is innate and you must develop it, because, with being challenged once, you can commit murder – “The end of development” – says the Master – “for 100 years” – or something else, right. It is difficult, mastering, sometimes there are heavy people, intrusive insinuations – but there is the Spiritual feat. Because you will be coming back again and learning your lessons.
-And these black angels who fell in Anciency, how exactly did they destroy this Immutability of theirs? How, what crept into them, in order for them to desire this… Has this Ancient Evil crept into them, what exactly happened, when they fell and violated that Boundlessness within themselves and their Immutability?
-All who have fallen, on all kinds of levels – have more or less separated themselves from God. They wanted (things) their own way, according to their own will, and I, as I told you, no matter how reasonable a life you lead, without God it is simply mad, because you do good, but God does not flow. True Good is… At the least, Deep Supreme Soul flows in the person – then good flows. Then even the small gift is precious, and the big one – everything is precious. But when you flow, you hinder God to flow in you, you are no longer in the Current of that Love. Like the True Woman – in her God is the Current, the Primordial Woman. Tomorrow we will hint something about the woman – He, God Himself, flows there. He is… He is a Seal, she is His Seal and whoever comes to know this woman… I hinted at John of Rila – he missed out. Miracles – yes, good things – yes. He missed the Deeper degree of development, because passing through the woman properly… But he had secret concerns that he would not last there, that he would be tempted. He had no Approach in the Depths, he had no… Because if you act with the woman… and if you see God in her, and you pray that God teaches you, He will teach you relations that are not found in the world. Because for me, True Love, what the Master recently hinted to me, such a conversation – True Love, this is to give God to the other. That is it.
-Amazing.
-Everything… yes. Everything else is…
-Yes.
-Right, you have nothing to give. From the very beginning, you have nothing to give, but this is… And besides that, True Love is a connection of two Aware Uncreated Souls. They may even interact as bodies, but actually this is external business, it…
-Yes.
-That, the Sacred. And this is why, recently, there are many such Sacred Souls around me, that is why I do many prayers, because… I have seen them, they deserve it, they are fragile… They work, make efforts, fall, get up, fall, get up, but they deserve it, and for these… These thousands of prayers… I would not even be surprised if one day I reach 70,000 and 100,000, because there is a way. I do not want to reach that, so that I do not get tired, because many books are also being made. But, if it becomes necessary and if these ones encroach – authorities, such – on the Brotherhood… I am speaking about the Brotherhood in the Pure sense.

-Yes.
-I am not speaking about those who argue, so, because… The Brotherhood is – these are beings whom everyone respects – all the brothers and sisters whom the Master has chosen. Here you shall not approve or disapprove. Since someone is chosen by the Master, it is a sign. Besides, you must love everyone – this is why I have such a formula: “Bless all my enemies” – because they are not… there are no enemies, they are seeming ones that God sends, but they are not enemies. If the enemy makes you Deep Water and if God sends them to you to insult you, to… In order for God to grow in you. God sends them to you so that God grows in you and then removes them – having completed their tasks. So the enemy is a precious thing, but concealed.
-If John of Rila had stayed, chosen, let us say this Soul…
-A girl, I forgot her name.
-Yes, actually with her, how do you think his life would have turned out?
-Well – the fact that he ran away – it is not known if it would have turned out in the right way. He supposedly chose God, but there, with her, if he had stood up against himself, against his finer ego, he would have made a greater leap.
-What did he miss?
-Because I have read his wisdom – he has almost no Wisdom, like almost all saints.
-Yes.
-Right, and Johannes Chrysostomus – the Golden Mouth, so and so… He talks like that, at times such nonsense, that… Now, I wish him to be alive and well, may he be blessed, right – and he also denies reincarnation, etc… Like Patriarch Euthymius, he criticises the Bogomils – he is already finished. Like one priest said recently in the newspaper – a new priest, he began to criticize the Master. He is already in such karma… You, to criticise the enemy – it is karma, the good person – it is karma, and when you encroach on the Master – it is already incalculable. But we accept it. The Master does not need protection because He is such Supremity that you cannot see Him. But He… Because when you research something, then you have the right. But you must first examine it with Love, and when you examine it with Love, criticism falls away.
-Yes.
-Yes, the Master says: “Criticism is an abnormal world, you simply must avoid it, not share it. When you reach criticising, it is better to be silent, pray, ask God to give you understanding… Criticism will eventually lead to illnesses. Inevitably, you simply have no choice. And that is why I am speaking to many of our people, so that they can avoid, because when it becomes late… Now, like from Tolbuhin, a… a boy – craniocerebral trauma, four years old. How would you give him a scooter… And now they want us to pray, but late. And there are many other such cases – you think beforehand, you guard, you do, but in this world things are learned in a negative way. Goodness is not… “It has proven” – says the Master… In the past… God has made an attempt in goodness – goodness becomes evil, it does not give a good result. This is a Master – to turn good into Truth and into Love. However, when you remain on the level of goodness and faith – you are done for.
-Would you share what is the idea about these events that are being held, these forums, here, these now – tomorrow what we will have… What is the Master’s idea, God’s idea, to gather people like this with… In such a way, with an idea, what does He want, what is His Conception?
-Well, the deep things, the subtle thinking, is contagious – as is the rough thinking, right? Like Hitler… He had a rule to master people, and to him it was not important what he said, but how he spoke – it does not matter what nonsense he utters – it is important to rule with insinuation, by force, right. And here it is the opposite – in the Way of the White Brotherhood… So, regarding the parasites, the Master very subtly says, I recently encountered a thought, that the parasites – these are schooled philosophers – from a past life – who walked the path of the Black Brotherhood. And now all parasites, viruses – this is a battle with these beings that are backward. However, there is something very nice in this battle, because the parasites can save you from the heavier devils and the heavier demons behind. They are the little trials. And the Master says: If you accept the small evil, you will be saved from the great evil. But we dispute, we do not… We think that… And it is the gift that… To avoid the heavy things. Sometimes, we, from lack of understanding, from small sufferings, because sufferings are a blessing, they want… It is a privilege, the Master says: “It is a privilege, they want to make you reasonable.” And what was your…
-What, what is God’s Conception when He gathers so many people, do you have any idea…
-Yes. Such strong aura, where there are many Souls, and not mental people… It will… there may be someone here and there, but… Souls create a field, to perceive these Pure Truths more deeply, and when there is a lot of Soul, the corresponding music, these Sufis, you know how they play with Soul, right, Pepsi, I understood that he will come – he is another Soul… It is reinforced in order for you to understand what is Right. However, whether you will choose it Deeply, with Soul, with willpower, with… right, with diligence, right – that is already another matter. But someone can start, and sometime… Tomorrow, for example, from some thought of mine, without me knowing – to be ignited and inside them a Fire could start. This attempt must be made, these rules, these formulas must be said…
-As we were traveling today from Sofia with Dilyanka, we were listening to the two parts of the Diamond Book, and I was ignited by an idea that… Say, Dilyanche.
-When you surpass the world, you are able to teach it.
-Yes. And you must be beyond the world.
-Yes.
-There is, with Isaac Newton, he had an interpretation of the Bible, he did not know deeply, and he cannot interpret, and Cyril and Methodius cannot, they… Anyway, but there is a beautiful occurrence with him – standing by the shore and saying: “We are playing with seashells”… something small, I forgot the idea exactly, but, ah… The meaning, but the idea is this: We are dealing with various secrets, and before us – an entire sea of Secrets we do not know, and we are still on the shore. We are small, we are small, because… And the smaller you become, the more you understand. The more you say… Even sometimes for an ordinary word: I do not know – the more you enter into the Depth of words, right. Because when you say “I know”, the mind has a barrier, and the mind cannot research, it cannot understand, it does not even ask to understand. There are people, they say: You do not understand me – and in them there are parasites and beings who never want to be understood. They want their wilfulness. And I do not have (such) an idea. But they, if they humble themselves in time, they will begin to understand on their own. And I may tell them something, or I may not. There are beings – they do not ask in order to understand.
-Aha, just like that…
-Philosophers.
-Out of curiosity and to…
-They are playing.
-Facts.
-Yes.
-To hear a fact, why so.
-Yes.
-The Master then, these parasites, no matter if they come in dreams or as intrusive thoughts, is it better to endure them, or is it better to ask God to master them instead of us, with formulas?

-So, out of everything, it is best to ask for Oneness with God, because He has created evil so that we can defeat it through Oneness. It is clear that we cannot do it ourselves – no human pondering and… And to observe them as beings, so that God grows in us. He, with this resistance, with this pressure, right, He tutors us. Sometimes they are strong, He makes them strong. They are weak, but He, when He makes them strong, wants to make a leap in you. Right, and if you miss the moment, you have to wait for another time.
-Do the formulas stop…
-The formulas should be every day and besides that, you should never rely only on the formulas, just like in the church they pray, but the Master says: “One wrong action – your entire philosophy ends”. Everything already… There is the big… because the act is, it is the result of thoughts and feelings.
-Yes.
-It is a result and it means that there is something in you if you act unreasonably, right? And no matter how heavy it is for you, you must act reasonably, regardless of your heavy condition, you still must, yes. Which is difficult then, because when it is light for you, of course, it is one thing. But when you are burdened – to be diligent – there is the disciple. In heavy sufferings is seen… The disciples, the True Ones – they are ennobled. In heavy sufferings. They suffer quietly and pleasantly, and become noble, while others make noise, in such a way.
-Yes.
-You withstand there.
-Yes, yes. Because, accepting suffering with Love, it humbles you, it teaches you, you know it is reasonable, you know you pay off… There are many brothers and sisters who are misled – sometimes they work seriously and suddenly – heavy and… You think about suicide and… I know at least seven – eight cases, they might even be more. This is your past, you are chosen, you are walking in the Way rightly – do not despair, do not allow it. The past will come, the Master says, “Your past life will always come and chase you,” right. It is important that you now… what you sow and what you do now – however difficult it may be for you, whatever your karma is, says the Master, you must correct your mistakes.
-Yes.
-Karma is karma, you cannot excuse yourself with it and to… to think that it is everything.
-And what should our attitude be towards other people who have demands towards us, towards our actions? They are often close ones or relatives who demand something from us, that we have not promised or agreed to do, and they are dissatisfied with our behaviour, and want something different.
-Can you give an example, or?
-How often, for example, how much, how to love them, how often to see them, how much, what, what should our conversations be with them, and it just… Naturally, for example, it does not work out exactly like that.
-Well, then… more internal relations – with such people, where there is misunderstanding, the Master says: you will speak to them internally, mentally, without voice. “Lord, give them light and reasonableness”, “Soften them,” and rarer encounters, and you make an effort to… to speak the Truth or the half-truth, because the Truth is sometimes a killer, there is no way. Half-truths are admissible, the lie – never, it is known. And then with half-truths… and how, how you express the half-truth, because you have to be in God again. There are half-truths that are in God, there are… And all of this is good for… You go to a training session, Danielka. It is not for… Like a subtle test, in order to see yourself, how you speak, and not what they want. You observe yourself, God is observing you, because in time, on Judgement day and of… of the trial, God will say: What have you achieved? You accept it as child’s play, even if it is a heavy person, because all people are children, more or less.
-Even if… if… they get angry that we did not do what they…
-You, you, by acting before God in the right way, He, God will, in time… He will set them straight.
-I also have one more question: Before practice, I would like to ask you to give a formula for calming the mind.
-So, the mind is such a being that will never rest. It is the snake. It lives on worrying, it draws out energy – that is its life, to create a problem for you, to create a lot of control. When you begin to master words, because words are spirits – there are people who kill each other over a few words – and when you begin to master words, you master the spirits. And in that mastery, the mind subtly disappears. You enter into the Peace of the Spirit or into the peace of the Soul, and the mind – it cannot be defeated, it can be, like evil – God does not allow. It can be overcome with many such exercises. In calmness, in Peace, in Harmony with yourself, in not submitting, in restraint and in control… You train this for years and in one moment simply no one can challenge you.
-Yes, I mean that sometimes when I sit down to do the practice, to say the prayers and the formulas, and it starts – a first, second, third thought, intrusive, trying to stop, right, wanting to make you stop your practice, like that, for whatever reason. And, let us say, sometimes it can succeed to intrude thoughts upon 10%-20% of my practice. And let us say, on the 40th or 50th formula, I already feel a sense of calm, where it does not hinder me so much.
-Yes. Because you insist, Stefcho, and it…
-Yes.

-When you insist and you enter into your concentration, it dies with concentration, with prayers, when repeating dhikr, as… So, the more you think about God, God will master it – it is not our business, is it. And when you relax, it is still not there – it is very important to be able to – the relaxed mind – is diluted, it cannot cling. You must not let it… it likes to cling and sometimes it clings to some thought that is very pure, of the Master, but it is not for you, and it can affect you. And so, choose to cling to those thoughts that raise you up. Because the Master, at times, speaks on all sorts of different levels and you must… And with many exercises, right, when you think a lot about God, just at one moment – as is the case with the Sufis – it already… Think so much of God until you form Him in yourself – we have said it – and then already, God in you… The mind does not have any say, it has nothing to say to God, nor can it argue. What is required…
-Yes.
-Constant thinking of God, not only prayers – the reading, all activities, for them to be directed in such a way.
-Constant efforts.
-Otherwise, it, in small gaps, you become lax in the world – it is waiting for this. You prayed, but during the day you become lax somewhere – it wants this laxness, too. That is why I say: In the Bible, “Pray incessantly” means: constant thinking about God in all sorts of different ways. So that there is no entrance. Something like 24 hours working time, which is not easy, because the day is long, the day is long. To pray in your sleep, too.
-Yes.
-Brother Michael, as I remember it, gave one thing as guidance: about 15-20 minutes to read Spiritual Ideas before prayer, in order to enter some level. Can this… Can it be like…
-It helps, it helps, like ‘Om’ if you repeat it – any mantra helps, because it, in the prayers, right… It has no connection to the prayers and sometimes it can try to keep intruding, and to, right, in order to hinder. However, when you repeat to yourself, it… You rise up, says the Master, with certain prayers, upwards, it travels with you to some extent, and from then on it is already like a fish on dry land. From then on, it cannot touch you. It goes back and… and when you do this for a long time as a habit, right, and the habit must become fearsome. I call it a white habit, such, that…
-Thank you.
-Yes.
-Bad thoughts were never the problem. The problem is when the person clings to them, and if they feed them for a long time, and then… So they have something kindred with that thought, and then it can become very dangerous. And the Master says: If it builds a nest in you, it can become dangerous. – and it comes to check you. And for you to love God more. It comes to tamper you, and when you get used to thinking about God a lot, such thoughts will rarely pass. And when they pass, they will quickly leave, because there is no entrance – how will they enter into the Nothingness. If you are Nothing, humble, right, how will such a thought offend you? What insult, who will criticise you, who will overthrow you – opposite there is no… How would you insult Sufi – they are not there. In order to insult them, they have to be someone. If they are someone, then even without offense… I know such people – life itself has offended him, there was no, there was no need for anyone to offend him. I shared recently, somewhere there, how the Master, with simple words… He is something very deep, the Master – something rare. Many books have been written about the liver – The Master with one sentence: Do not hate anyone! – the end, all the books already… Whatever has been written, it is easy to say, but you have to train that. And you have to take a good look at yourself – is there anything you hate. You are in a trap there, it does not matter if it is a person.
-Yes, yes.

-Whatever it is, it can be an object, something. It could be some politician, something, the war… Who are you? Right… Some would stop it… It is in God’s power only, no one can stop it. If He chooses, He will stop it immediately, but He has karmas, He knows why. There is the power of the Master – one sentence, a concentrate. The Master saves us so much, the development, such Love has descended, right – and this in Bulgaria. All of Europe has to learn from the Master. There is no way we can learn from them, with such a Master, there is simply no way. They, not only Europe, in general…
-The world.
-Such a Master, right, but whoever understands.
-Yes, whoever understands.
-Who like Him has accepted 50% (of) the karma of His disciples? What a Love… We cannot withstand. If it were not for this Love, neither my battles with the wolves, with National Security… All of this, right, I would have dropped out somewhere. But when it is with Him and Total Trust, regardless of whether the help comes quickly or slowly, or does not come – Total Trust. It must remain, and what He does, you… you do not have a say, you have no right to want, He knows which thing to do. And when they were looking for me on a National search, they went to ask Vanga, too, where I was, she did not say, and I… In the house where I had to live, in a garage, it belonged to one policeman… A policeman was hiding me, and a policeman was looking for me… Everything is in the Hands of the Master.
-You have not said that, at least I have not heard it with Word.
-In Govedartsi, this was in Samokov. And then…
-In a policeman’s garage.
-Yes, yes. The Master knows, who is His. You must train a lot of control, a lot of discipline, Stefcho, and when so, there was an instance, some policemen were threatening me with prison and Bobov Dol, the mines, they would send me there… The matter is to not… you listen and do not hear – you think a lot about God, God decides, not them, and in the end it happens as God wants. You must not give in, no matter what they say to you. Independence, an exercise in independence, right? But, you must be dependent on all Sacred, Reasonable things, Wise – yes. There – dependence. But the human things, the unreasonable things… The Master teaches you which are truly reasonable and which are not, because if you become completely independent, you will go astray.
-This is exactly what I think, that if such, let us call them Supreme Beings, at one point have said “my will” and had some kind of desire, and they fell in this way, how much must we be careful in our thoughts, and think about God, and… Lest it happen, so that we do not… so that we do not make this type of mistake, because it is thin ice.
-Yes, God knew, when He gave free will, that fearsome atrocities would happen. But He knows that later these people will return, because they have nowhere to go. They will fall down to some bottom, to some cruel word, to some immense loneliness where it is unbearable. And from there on, they have to embark, and He knew all this and foresaw it. So there is nothing to surprise God.
-What would you say about this music that we listened to today, that Stefcho prepared? Formulas clad in music – what is your impression?
-I personally really liked it, yes. We did not hear a few songs, but as long as the idea in the centre is the formula, it is a Root, a main, key word – and everything builds from there on. The lyrics are nice, selected, in general, this music… Artificial intelligence does things that the natural one missed, it has lost them… But there are also those, with artificial intelligence they started to make chalga, too. It continues.
-Yes, yes, yes.
-A process. No, which… each one will use as they wish and in time there will be no freedom. Now there is supposed to be conditional freedom… Absolutely everything, says the Master, at the moment – people, nations, animals, everything is fulfilling God’s Will. But some know, some do not, and everything is predetermined except for a few percent. There is so, a freedom for the Wise, and they know what they must do. And what do they do, right, they have freedom there – and they increase their formulas, they increase their Reasonableness, they increase their Purity, and there they are allowed to outgrow predetermination on an even higher level. In many other things, important events, God is involved, God moves them. So whatever happens, right, He is the One behind. Because people, due to many wrong choices, have lost their freedom and now they wonder – is there freedom or is there not. They have limited themselves so much, that if they are allowed now, to continue to do more cruelty and wilfulness, it will become too heavy already, as karma.
-Yes.
-Cruelly unbearable. And this is why there are many people who die earlier and die of some kind of cruelty, so that the demonism in them is also severed, because if they become from devils – demons, it can already take thousands of millions of years. And this is why God somewhere severs and God intervenes. In fact, that which cannot be told to many people, that He… without Him the killing cannot take place. It is Him. Because He is Love. He has given life and has the right to take it away. People themselves have no right, they will pay, they think they have the right.
-You have explained it about the war, when you explain, right, we ask the question “Why does a 20-year-old boy die” and yes…
-Yes. Many people, if they lived a long life, instead of dying at 5-10 years old, 20, they would have made cruel karmas for the next life. Both as a way of thinking and consciousness, as psyche that secretly accumulates. You think that outwardly he is a good person and you say: He is a good one. You do not know… God knows the consciousness.
-What we think…
-Yes, hmm.
Translated by Ruah Ezekiel
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